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Old 3rd February 2009, 22:58   #1081 (permalink)
 
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On another forum, dedicated to BLK, it is saying that the airport are looking for another airline to look at summer routes to go against LS.

Whether this is true or not it does cause some discussion! It has now been proved that Balfour Beatty is not shy of getting to airlines on one/two routes and do not seem to fall under pressure so maybe there is some truth in it!

Only companies I can think of are Globespan (not had particularly good dealings with smaller airports in England) and easyJet (heavy at MAN and LPL so not much chance). Maybe a charter carrier....

DISCUSS!!!
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Old 3rd February 2009, 23:16   #1082 (permalink)
 
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Wonder what Jet2 will have to say about the belfast flights?
Good point take off: Blackpool Airport will test the patience of Jey2 one to often IMO.

If you remember they did the same courting Thompson to fly the Alicante route in the winter a couple of years ago.

I think Monarch left Blackpool because of the threat from Jet2 in 2006.

Now we have an economic downturn yet they are testing the successful Manx 2 with these not so new routes.

Had Blackpool found a successor to the Gerona route vacated by Ryanair, then that would have been impressive.
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Old 3rd February 2009, 23:19   #1083 (permalink)
 
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Well if LS follow through and bring in another aircraft again next summer I would expect to see increases in current frequencies such as AGP and maybe ALC going back to daily with FAO and MJV seeing increases.

Plus new destinations which we can probably bring down to places such as BCN and maybe somewhere in Italy?
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Old 3rd February 2009, 23:19   #1084 (permalink)
 
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ADF is also at Norwich and Newquay and also at Kerry & Knock in Ireland. It is the norm at south american airports and someone told me they had to pay it in Jamaica its just not so common here in the UK ....yet.....
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Old 3rd February 2009, 23:22   #1085 (permalink)
 
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On another forum, dedicated to BLK, it is saying that the airport are looking for another airline to look at summer routes to go against LS
R.I.P Blackpool International Airport - If this report is true.

Jet2 is the lifeblood off BLK, they go - Then the airport will just be a base for IOM carriers.

Could Flybe not do the abandoned Ryanair route though, without impinging on the Jet2 routes?.
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Old 3rd February 2009, 23:24   #1086 (permalink)
 
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Not much to discuss really.

Too late for a summer long charter series but a series of high season ad-hoc charters is the best you can hope for.

Blackpool must be a good little earner for Jet2, so I think it would be rather foolish to compromise a carrier that can now be described as established, with duplication of routes.
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Old 4th February 2009, 02:31   #1087 (permalink)
 
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having read that comment on the same forum you have ,the words tongue in cheek are pretty obvious!!
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Old 4th February 2009, 09:35   #1088 (permalink)
 
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Bob Stinger,

I did get the jist of it but it does brig up a few questions as to whether we will see another LCC, maybe flying to other destinations than LS.
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Old 4th February 2009, 10:19   #1089 (permalink)
 
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Well, I think we can all agree that it won't be the flying harp lady back in blk, at least not anytime soon, and guys lets not knock manx2 so quick eh? theyve done blk a service, lets hope that they and flybe(loganair) can sit happily next to each other, whos knows maybe with flybe moving in , the airport will pick some more travellers up off lpl. As for a new larger carrier, would imagine if any charter was to re-appear it would be a tom/fca combo, as exeter seem to have a good relationship with them, at moment i think any new routes should be welcomed, or at least given chance, albeit a different destination to those already served would have been better

Just out of interest , does anyone think TCX would ever use blk?

Have good day guys(and gals!!)
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Old 4th February 2009, 16:25   #1090 (permalink)
 
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Can't see Manx2 and Loganair co-existing on the route beyond the end of the summer season.. if not sooner. There are not enough pax on route to split between 2 carriers. It has happened too many times on other routes out of IOM. Would be good to see Manx2 stay as the operator on this route
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Old 4th February 2009, 16:40   #1091 (permalink)
 
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The fee in Jamaica is a government imposed departure tax
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Old 4th February 2009, 16:40   #1092 (permalink)
 
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If I am going to be straight, the North West benefits more as the plane is based at BLK while the Manx people maybe affected if it means Manx2 come off of the route.

I would like Manx2 to stay but for the sake of my local economy I would prefer BE to come out trumps but ONLY if they are actually going to stay which I would find unlikely.

Manx2 need to keep fighting!
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Old 4th February 2009, 20:19   #1093 (permalink)
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just like the old spacegrand days of the 80's
Who of course merged with Jersey European, re-branded as British European and the re-branded as Flybe

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Flybe started operations on 1 November 1979 as Jersey European Airways (JEA), after taking over the operations of Intra Airways. Jersey European Airways was the brainchild of John Habin, a resident of Jersey and the majority investor in JEA. Having sold Aviation Beauport and other business interests, Habin established a few key routes from Jersey to the UK. Jersey European Airways was taken over in 1983 by Jack Walker's Walker Steel Group who were already the parent company of Blackpool based charter airline Spacegrand Aviation. The two airlines were run separately, with partially shared management, until their amalgamation within the Walker Aviation Group in 1985, under the Jersey European name. The airline rebranded as British European in June 2000 and later shortened this title to Flybe on 18 July 2002 and aimed to reposition itself as a full service, low-fare airline........
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Old 4th February 2009, 22:50   #1094 (permalink)
 
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Angry

Judging by the comments on Manx 2's website, they ain't happy at all!
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Old 5th February 2009, 00:09   #1095 (permalink)
 
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Unfortunately Blackpool has had a habit of losing its carriers , it doesn't pay to upset your bread and butter income stream by jumping with glee at the thought of another carrier on an existing route ! the airport doesn't have enough carriers or regular tenants it can afford to lose at the moment through bad business relationship issues .

Not surprised Manx2 are hacked off - may be they should give the airport management a wake up call -it's not a good advert for business relationship
going forward !

The GA Community has been screwed at Blackpool - a regular source of income in the past , and given the amount of commercial traffic passing through the terminal at the moment it has an air of being in trouble - can't last at these levels surely as a viable concern. The only thing moving in the terminal is tumbleweed.

Anyone know how much £££ the airport's losing at the moment ?????

As much as its good to see new carriers - for christ sake fly to different destinations
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Old 5th February 2009, 00:47   #1096 (permalink)
 
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Having just read on the Loganair website, it says that it's crews overnight in some destinations. What I was wondering is whether there will actually be a based crew or will they fly:

Day 1:
GLA-IOM-BLK
BLK-IOM-BHD
BHD-IOM-BLK

Ovenight

Day2:
BLK-IOM-BHD
BHD-IOM-BLK
BLK-IOM-GLA

Or will there be an actual base in BLK like LS? Thanks
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Old 5th February 2009, 11:34   #1097 (permalink)
 
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It's not the airport's fault. They cannot block an airline that wants to open up a route in direct competition with another.

Deja vu. Only this time around it's Flybe who are trying to grab some of the cream. Trouble is, this will hurt both Manx2 and Flybe. There just isn't the volume to make profits for both airlines.
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Old 5th February 2009, 13:32   #1098 (permalink)
 
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The way things are going, the place is going to be closed before the Summer schedule even gets off the ground! Now they've had to shut the radar (yet again, ATIS says "Radar is unserviceable"). More likely they've no staff left to run it!!

Surely. things can only get better....

Or is that Pie in the Sky????
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Old 5th February 2009, 15:55   #1099 (permalink)
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Hello from the management at Blackpool International

Hello all, we read your comments with huge interest - thank you for taking the time to post them. We think its high time that we contributed 'officially' to this forum and look forward to continued support and debate with yourselves!

See below link to the latest news issued today - we look forward to discussing further.

Blackpool International - News - UK and European destinations with both charter and scheduled flights.

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Old 5th February 2009, 16:40   #1100 (permalink)
 
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re Radar

Isn't it better to get the maintenance out of the way while it's quiet?

Runway and taxiway work starts in less than two weeks, finished before Jet2 Summer schedule begins near end of March.
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