Re Isn't the person in charge at Signature the same person who used to run BIAS, who used to actively encourage commercial diversions ? and another quite regularly posts here.
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Think you will find that he has not worked with Signature for over 1-2 years.
With Executive Handling - Today a visiting Citation and 125 went to "Exclusive" (Source building) is there a Handling agent over that side as today was not the first citiations and 125 visit over there.
If I was the passenger on the Leeds flight that circled Southampton several times then ended back up a Leeds would have been extreamly annoyed to hear that they could have gone into Bournemouth.
The ex cross runway is now called "Romeo" so there should be more parking than the oldie days.
whether my points hold up or not is irrelevant, they are the reasons the airport authority gives for decisions on diversions, i don't necessarily agree with them. as i said before perhaps someone from servisair can expand on it.
as eurostar builder says, there are other organisations on the north side of the airfield, ids for example,one problem is that the airport used to just say, ''yeah,let them come'' and often handling etc would be done by the a.f.s(no longer allowed),also,many aircraft that diverted in had their pax stuck on board for long periods(leading to complaints from pax,airlines etc).so for good or bad, the reasons i initially stated are now 'policy'
as i said, i don't necessarily think they are right or won't change as the airport grows
Totally out of order blaming Servisair at BOH for rejecting diverts.
In know for a fact that they actively encourage them. As I understand the procedure is that Servisair are called by the airline with a divert request, Servisair then have to pass the info to the Bournemouth Airport Authorities, who scrutinise it with a fine toothcomb and more often that not reject it due to lack of space??!!.
It appears that the space issue usually involves small aircraft and cargo aircraft being allowed to occupy stands that should be allocated to passenger aircraft.
I am aware that there also seems to be some bizarre policy of keeping stands free 'just in case'. IN CASE OF WHAT???? Who knows!!!
This new expansion scheme needs to be driven forward by a pro-active and forward thinking management team at Bournemouth Airport, not he 'old boys network' thats in place at present.
I hear that (although they are denieing rumours of a move) some 'higher-up' people from ATC-Lasham were looking at the ex-BASCO Hangar a couple of weeks ago; anyone heared more?
tribekey thank you for your explanation of what may be the official reasons for the refusals and the following comments are not directed at you but the Airport itself and it’s Handling agents.
Although there may be compelling reasons to limit, may be even severely limit, the number of diversions, to have what appears to be a blanket ban seems very much like a won’t do rather than a can do attitude is prevailing at the Airport.
Times have changed and I fully accept that you can’t have anyone just running and driving around the airfield, as was the case back in the big diversion days. Also contrary to what QWERY9 says a lot of the diverted passengers in the past didn’t just get on coaches from the arrivals hall, but were directed to the main building where all the facilities are. Now these facilities are airside there is just not the room to handle these number of people in what is primarily just a check in area.
Conserving Jet Fuel stocks for main operators may also have been reason for refusal, but even after taking all the above and what tibekey has pointed out into consideration I find it unbelievable that Bournemouth couldn’t find room to accept at least one Passenger diversion during the period. Correct me if I’m wrong but the Leeds flight was a J41, and not to be able to accept an aircraft that size, no matter how busy you are seems most strange.
I think these questions need to be directed to the Airport themselves and what better way than to get the media (Echo) to ask the questions, how about it QUERTY9.
On another occasion a Citation which wanted to Divert spoke to the tower and was refused due to no handling. The pilot told tower that they where going to CSE Ciatation centre where they could handle themselves (ie shut down and leave) but was still refused.
WHAT...
Also re Basco Hangar rumour of ATC Lasham was heard about a month ago.
What a great facility it would be for them instead of having to land at a Gliding field with all there restrictions.
What will happen with the VP 747 now BASCO have gone.
yankee, thanks for the reply, i should have added that there wasn't a blanket ban, some diversions were accepted, i saw at 3 or 4 on one day(think it was the thursday)and several exec types on the friday, limited amounts .
eurostar builder,
the incident you mention about the citation centre, i believe it was friday evening( apologies if not but the following did happen),the citation which wanted to divert belonged to the same company who had phoned up several times during the day and been told that no handling was available, despite that they set off expecting to land and were refused as no handling was available. after some discussion it was SUGGESTED TO THE PILOT that they could park at cse citation centre but that this would be at their own discretion as there would be nobody there to marshall the aircraft etc . the pilot elected not to do that for obvious reasons; the airport (via atc) did not refuse the aircraft permission to land and use ids.
VP-BAT has never been here in conjuction with BASCO and so will remain based. She did however depart to Doha yesterday, no relation to the BASCO Closure though.
May I take this time to wish you all a wonderful 2007,
I regularly visit my daughter in Bournemouth and have flown into and out of Southampton about a dozen times in the past year to various destinations but it would be far easier for me to go to and from Bournemouth, but I am sorry to say that Southampton strikes me as a highly professional operation with Bournemouth down in the minor leagues. They are going to have to put some money and serious effort in if they are are going to compete but I don't see it happening - its a real shame.
The Lockheed Electra returns to Hurn Monday to Fridays.
We understand that the Mail and paper contract is being renewed and it will change from Aurigny and Air Contractors operating down to the Islands to Atlantc Airlines with the Electra and an ATP.
We do not know how this fits in to other contracts out of Hurn, the Electra leaves Hurn to make good an arrival time into Jersey of 0530 local time and the ATP to make good an arrival in Guernsey of 0600.
Does any one know when the contracts are due to change and what other contracts are effected out of Hurn?
I have just heard on local radio on my way home of an incident at BOH tonight at about half 5. All I know is that there was an emergency landing and that the surrounding roads were closed with a large emergency service turnout.
A new route to Dalaman starts this summer operated by Goldtrail holidays on a Tuesday using Onur Air A321
Arrive 1900
Dept 2000
Bath Travel are using Royal Caribbean Cruises next winter with flights to the Dominican Republic as well as PO and Fred Olsen Cruises to Barbados , Acapulco and New Orleans using Monarch and Thomsonfly
Work is also about to start on the new arrivals building and ramp area
All good news
Winter 07/08 will not be bookable until the early summer. I think last year they went on sale some time in June. Most low cost airlines follow this format. Ryanair have only just loaded this summer over the last few weeks for instance.
Great news on the extra service to Turkey. Hope it all works out well.
Could have sworn it was about this time last year they were released, oh well will have to wait a bit longer to book my frequent winter golfing flights to AGP and LPA
BTW, if anyone from Thomson is reading this, any chance of at least one summer schedule flight to LPA a week???
Living in hope but not entering breath holding contests
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Just checked on the 'news' section of the Bournemouth Airport website and Thomsonfly released their flights for sale to Gran Canaria in April 2006. So keep your eyes peeled from April onwards. Happy golfing.
I gave up looking on Bournemouth's web site for news ages ago, have a direct link to flight departures/arrivals and thats it as far as that site is concerned which is a real shame and shows what a missed opertunity that web site has become both for locals and other more distant PAX.
For up to date BOH news, I find there is no better place than lurking on these forums or chatting to the Thompson and Ryanair staff while I'm riding in their fine equipemt....
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