Barcelona Gerona does very well from BOH, but instead of extra capacity on this sector we think we might be able to get stronger yields on a different route but within close proximity to each other so Reus is definately on the radar for Bournemouth. Aircraft availability is the reason other routes might be brought forward first. In a couple of years Bournemouth will be a base so many destinations will be served from Bournemouth - including Marseille.
I really doubt that long term Ryanair will achieve either load factor or yield to a satisfactory level on any of the Inverness routes. If this route happens it will be short lived. Also the new routes on EMA & LPK INV will be an interesting experiment. Does anyone know if Ryanair is getting a subsidy under the new Scottish fund for air service scheme???
Easyjet are launching a few EDI routes with some of this assistance. Eg MUC MXP & MAD.
Is Ryanair definately doing a base at BOH in the future , only that I can remember when Buzz was taken over it seems Ryanair were adverse to the idea of a BOH base???
When Ryanair took over Buzz there were loads of different reasons for closing down the airline - as they did also from Stansted for a month. The main reason though was because Ryanair didn't fly to Buzz's proposed destinations: AMS, CDG, BFS etc. And the base hadn't yet opened.
When Buzz announced BOH-PIK, FR immediately took over that route.
They have publicly announced (on local radio and in the press) they will be opening a base within 4 years or so. Ryanair usually want to place 3 aircraft at a base for economies of scale.
I agree with you about INV not being sustainable. I think the same about SNN. It is definately interesting to watch though.
Thanks for the feedback.. I agree with what you say ie reasons why FR did not open base at that time. But it did surprise me at that time that they did not proceed with BOH in their own right, ans fly to the usual FR destinations. I will be looking forward to an FR base when it comes.!
I agree also that BOH SNN will be a hard route to sustain. I mean Coventry to Shannon failed miserably and surely Coventry has bigger catchment than BOH ?
Bournemouth catchment is smaller, but Coventry catchment is poorer - the result is that Bournemouth has a superior catchment - wealthier and travel more often giving the effect of a much larger than average catchment
Does anybody know what the current policy at Bournemouth - Hurn airport is regarding diversions?
I ask because despite clear blue skies today and empty apron/taxiways Bournemouth was turning away diversions with the reason being the Airport was full!
Surely if Bournemouth would like to encourage new operators especially now that they have been granted money to improve facilities this policy is as good as stabbing themselves in the back with regards to future growth.
Bring back the good old days were it wasn't unusual to see numerous airliners (once there were 42 on the ground at one time) sat on the ground after diverting in. As i type this I hear a citation currently sat in the hold above Southampton being refused permission to land at Hurn and trying to find an airport elsewhere that is open and will accept him.
Lets hope that as part of the improvement process they replace the current management with people who have an interest in seeing the airport grow.
it doesnt surprise me quite frankly that diversions are being turned away. once christmas is here the servisair staff who manage the diversions can get away with murder (because MD is on hols), and the arrogant people at servisair bournemouth just can't be ar*ed to work - thats what it is. if the airport wanted to take diversions they definately could. Head of ops at bournemouth is old fashioned and doesnt want extra work either by the sound of it. im assuming he is the only one in charge at the moment as he gave that interview last night on Peter Bath poping his clogs (no one in marketing or PR to do it?!)
Southend reported to havehad 75 diversions yesterday -
I bet there counting there penny this morning.
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Re No Bizjet Handling Last night.
Is there a company over the far side that used to handle coporate aircraft called source or jet works?
With those Big empty Merdian hangars and now BASCO hangars Im going to see how much I can afford.
Nakata77....How DARE you say such vile things about the S'air staff. I can assure you that the staff do not pull a fast 1 ova the xmas period. Most diversions happen in the evening in the winter (fog etc...) and i can assure you that we are completely capable of dealing with them then when the managers aren't there! You think they only take xmas off??? Actually we mostly do it all on our ownsome anyway!!!!
With the facilites we have to work in/with (have you seen the ops dept) and the fact nearly everything is manual (PIR's etc) we do a bloody good job.
In fact the role of D.O is that of ops, dispatch, pax svcs (preparing certain elements on the PIL's), baggage tracing, and often departures boarding flights wen we are so short.
Try a day in our shoes b4 u comment....i certainly don't see any1 treating you that way!
don't know or care about ASW or EZY but Ryanair will be launching two more destinations come the spring.
Decisions currently being made, but considering Inverness and Liverpool (among others)
Well I dont know or carre about RYR
Im interseted to know....
Has BOH ever had any long running Domestic Destenations?
Well today only Prestwick and the Channel Islands are served!
Yet More Bad news yesterday from the airport. http://www.thisisbournemouth.co.uk/d...peter_bath.php
RIP Mr Bath
The loss of Basco / Jet2 and European battling to stay afloat, the aviation world of BOH is taking a battering. Hope some better news in the new year is to come....
I see BlueIslands have now introduced a direct flight to Guernsey on Saturdays rather than having to fly through Jersey. Nice to see one airline continuing to support Bournemouth even if it is only in small 9 - 19 seater aircraft!
As you are probably more in the know than most of us here, can you give the real reasons that so many requests for a diversion were turned down during last week, if as many have said such requests were made.
Not having a go at anyone, but as a user and payer to EGHH would like to know why any apparent income like this would be turned down.
was on duty for some of last week,I saw that some requests were turned down by the handlers(servisair and signature) for good reasons. Signature handled several extra exec jet type aircraft and turned down a few that wanted to divert whilst signature were closed (they are under no obligation to be there during all airport hours). Servisair turned down some requests, i cannot definitely say why but understand that the main reason is that they have to consider the capacity of the terminal and arrivals area to cope with extra pax over and above the eghh scheduled pax. Also, parking for aircraft diverting then night stopping is extremely limited, again eghh schedules/charters/mail flights etc take priority.
there were more diversions accepted in the past but they didn't have to compete with many scheduled movements.the day that 42 aircraft diverted was utter chaos, several pax waited 3 hours or more to get off their aircraft, i think it was 1996.
Another important point, if you've been told several times through the daythat no handling is available don't then set off and complain when you are again told you cannot land.
Signature handled several extra exec jet type aircraft and turned down a few that wanted to divert whilst signature were closed (they are under no obligation to be there during all airport hours).
If BOH wants to be taken seriously as an airport then I do feel the handling agents should be present, or at least available on request, during advertised opening hours. It was the middle of the afternoon when some executive jets were refused not late at night!
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Also, parking for aircraft diverting then night stopping is extremely limited, again eghh schedules/charters/mail flights etc take priority.
Has the airport lost a lot of its concrete/tarmac? They used manage to park diversions around the airfield and this in the days when runway 35/17 was still in use and not a taxiway/parking area as it is now. What about the space the European B747s used to take up (6 at one time I believe) and the space around the now regretably closed BASCO hangar?
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the day that 42 aircraft diverted was utter chaos, several pax waited 3 hours or more to get off their aircraft
This may have still been preferable to spending time in the SAM hold before having to divert back to Leeds, Glasgow or Jersey as some of the aircraft requesting diversion from SOU had to do. At least the time would have been spent on the ground with less than an hours coach trip back to SOU once disembarked. At least these pax would have got home the same day and I'm sure would have been very grateful.
It does seem that the easy option was taken - just say no. Even if only the SOU traffic had been accepted then this would have been no end of help to ATC, flight crew and passengers. The 'we are full' reason would then perhaps have been a bit more believable.
le tirer, i agree with all of the points you made, it is frustrating (from atc point of view) to turn aircraft away and more capacity would be great but was just stating the current reasons for limiting diversions(as i understand them).
sure there's room to park aircraft but no capacity to efficiently disembark/handle many extra inbound flights. as for the exec jets, for an authoritative answer someone from signature needs to respond,while i was there last week signature handled several extra jets and worked their socks off.i guess they reached their limit and had to turn some away.
BASCO now officially closed
I can assure you that the staff do not pull a fast 1 ova the xmas period. Most diversions happen in the evening in the winter (fog etc...) and i can assure you that we are completely capable of dealing with them then when the managers aren't there! You think they only take xmas off??? Actually we mostly do it all on our ownsome anyway!!!! 
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