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Old 29th Dec 2005, 15:11   #1 (permalink)
 
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BMI cancelling internal flights

From the BBC

BMI is cancelling some of its services between Scotland and London in the period just before and after the New Year break, it has emerged.
The airline, previously known as British Midland, has reassured passengers that it has no intention of permanently cutting the route.

A spokesman said that the services were so empty that the firm had no choice but to reduce flights.

BMI has recently cut some transatlantic routes and many of its onboard frills.

Chief executive Nigel Turner told BBC Radio's Good Morning Scotland programme that the decision on the Scottish routes was prompted by a low number of seasonal passengers.

Mr Turner said: "With it being the holiday season we do very closely examine the loads and if there is a specific flight, or one or two specific flights, where demand is very low then we will cancel those.

"BMI operates day-to-day from Edinburgh and Glasgow into London Heathrow, we've done so for the last 30 years and will continue to do so for the next 30 years."

Flights being cut on the Glasgow and Edinburgh routes to London Heathrow include services due to fly between 31 December and 4 January.
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Old 29th Dec 2005, 15:31   #2 (permalink)
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Read this also today.

Don't airlines do this every holiday period though (Christmas, Easter,bank hols).

Here, Eastern cancel a whole bunch of flights over the Christmas/New Year period, as no business demand.

Likewise BA cancel some London schedules, same reason.

Perhaps the story (or non-story??) is giving credence to the impression of BMI being in some sort of "trouble", going by other posts I've read on the airline.
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Old 29th Dec 2005, 16:11   #3 (permalink)
 
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Something of a "non-story", scheduled flights carrying a lot of business people around the holiday periods are generally trimmed to meet demand.
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Old 29th Dec 2005, 16:18   #4 (permalink)
 
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It also seems bmi have dropped the Luton-Brussels route, which was due to start in March 06. The route is not available for booking on their website anymore.

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Old 29th Dec 2005, 17:28   #5 (permalink)
 
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It is not unusual to cut a couple of frequencies late on 31 December and early on 1 January. However, around that time, travel is usually at a peak - and especially so on routes like Edinburgh where the destination sees an influx of tourists for new year.

The other thread previously running about bmi's appallingly poor performance seems to have disappeared some time ago. However, this is just another sign that passengers have deserted bmi in significant numbers and that other airlines - including BA - are benefitting from some increase in marketshare.
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Old 29th Dec 2005, 18:53   #6 (permalink)
 
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bmi always trim back services at Xmas / New Year. Nothing startling there, we like the chance to go on stby for a couple of weeks and have a breather. Same for many other airlines.

The routes to Scotland, especially those from bases other than LHR, are generally pitched at business passengers, albeit without business service in many cases. The fares reflect this. I do not think the airline would attract many New Years revellers at the fares charged. No sleep lost.

The Luton pipe-dream has been canned as the aircraft is required elsewhere. It was never going to happen...

Back to my beer and mince pies.
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Old 29th Dec 2005, 19:58   #7 (permalink)
 
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If that is indeed the case, it is a surprising admission by bmi that they just cannot attract the leisure market. I recall flying EDI-LHR a few years ago on 02Jan on a BA 767-300 because demand merited the upgrade from the 757. If bmi is cancelling flights at the same time and parking the aircraft, heaven help them. No other bugger will.
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Does anybody know why their was a BMI aircraft in LGW the other day ?
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Old 30th Dec 2005, 17:18   #9 (permalink)
 
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BMI is cancelling some of its services between Scotland and London in the period just before and after the New Year break, it has emerged.
Nice to see the Beeb up with the latest! British Midland/bmi have been doing this for the last 18 years to my knowledge, maybe even longer. A total non-story.

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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:10   #10 (permalink)
 
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i agree with the canx of certain flights, why run a high freq of flights with low pax on certain flights??? - just change them to the later or earlier flight. The good thing about doing this, and in particular bmi's case was that the flights were not canx on the day,it was pre done, which meant all pax would have been aware!

fao flyer55 - you sure it wasnt a baby a/c in lgw the other day?? we now operate a lgw-mme following pulling out of the lgw base some time ago.

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Old 30th Dec 2005, 23:54   #11 (permalink)
 
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With G Lost on this...

Most scheduled airlines trim back over the xmas break, you know how it is, everyone is killing time between xmas and new year, Nothing gets done, business is slack !

Why fly an empty aircraft?

As for BMI in gatwick........ if there's no scheduled business pax over the hols, why not slip in a charter....and make some money



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It was a BMI Painted aircraft
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You are correct flyer55.............

bmi have secured a weekend charter contract for a series of Winter charters from London Gatwick. Because Christmas falls over a weekend, LGW-GVA will commence operations on Saturday 24th December, however LGW-BCN initially operates on a Monday but switches to a Sunday operation from 8th January 2006.

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Old 1st Jan 2006, 09:11   #14 (permalink)
 
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The Luton pipe-dream has been canned

A shame, but then it would probably have lasted only about 18 months i.e. until Eurostar begins operating from St Pancras International.

Will also be interesting to see what happens to easyJet's LTN/CDG services at this time...

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Old 1st Jan 2006, 13:53   #15 (permalink)
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So this morning, the only early shchd to London from GLA, Guess who, bmi!, yep, no BA, Easy, Ryan, etc. Just old bmi. I guess thats news! better tell the papers. BD001 early out and into LHR.
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Bmi

I know this type of thread is supposed to be for Airport's but I'm doing one for my favourite Airline.

What's the chances they'll put 2005 behind them and turn things around in 2006?
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Old 9th Jan 2006, 15:38   #17 (permalink)
 
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Re: Bmi

....s L I M....
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Old 9th Jan 2006, 20:29   #18 (permalink)
 
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a very good chance, but as ive said in my prev posts, it will be an interesting year!!

come xmas nxt year we will see whether or not all these changes have worked......
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Re: Bmi

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Originally Posted by bmibabyfc
a very good chance, but as ive said in my prev posts, it will be an interesting year!!
come xmas nxt year we will see whether or not all these changes have worked......
It is already clear that bmi have lost losts of former high fare business customers. Whether bmi makes up for that with lots of low fare passengers is doubtful.
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Re: Bmi

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Originally Posted by DTVAirport
I know this type of thread is supposed to be for Airport's but I'm doing one for my favourite Airline.
What's the chances they'll put 2005 behind them and turn things around in 2006?

I would guess they are a mile away from getting it right.
I'm a BMi Diamond Club Gold Card Holder but have not booked anything with them for quite a while and am unlikely to in the immediate future.
Why?
1. I have no idea what they stand for anymore - high cost BA look alike or low cost pretender to the EasyJet crown? - probably neither. The Libdems of the airline world.
2. Long haul is a mess. Ws using them from Man - an excelllent product but have heard so much nonsense about them pulling out/not pulling out (including plenty on this rumour network), I'm much more likely to book on an airline that's in it 'for the long haul'. There is no way I will book a flight that ultimately gets pulled and I get an offer of a shuttle down to LHR to connect with a UA flight. This is missing the point -ie avoid LHR at all cost.
3. Finally - I just want them to be a viable alternative to BA so badly, but they've let me down by failing.

Please merge with Virgin and make a fist of it.
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