The photo ID/ Landing card check provides a means to ensure that all arrivals do in fact pass from the aircraft to landside. Any swap of Info would show up at the check where the operator can reconcile the bar code with a photo. Missing pax or wrong ID's will show up.
At LGW South, there is NO Photo ID check for ROI arriving pax, only UK domestic. Accept that there might be some later reconciliation problems with a spurious boarding card but there is NO Photo Check during ROI arrivals, you do NOT show a passport or any form of ID and there is NO computerised check of boarding cards during ROI arrivals, you just shove your boarding card stub in the fella's hand and walk off. By the time any later (manual) reconcillation has taken place, miscreant is well away from airport.
My original loophole method above still stands - it IS possible. I accept all that everyone here has said regarding the various controls, hidden police presence etc. It does not alter the fact that there are no actual, real time, identity checks carried out during the ROI arrivals process as there are for other (non CTA) international arrivals and even UK domestic arrivals. On the reverse journey, the Gardai check ID of all incoming passengers (certainly at DUB and SNN, which I use), regardless of origin. They accept a UK Driving Licence but have even said 'we just need to make sure who you are'.
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About time. At least it will cut down on the time it takes to exit the airport after an ROI arrival (which was my original gripe on the other forum - 2 Ryanair arrivals = 300+ people queuing for the single channel, looking for boarding cards and being refused by UK Border Entry staff the option of using a passport).
Until the CTA is scrapped and we're all treated to an ID check under the new scheme, loopholes exist at LGW South Border Control.
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Could anyone explain why there is seperate passport channel for people coming into Gatwick (and other airports?) from Ireland and the Channel Islands? Also, when there is a queue of 180 people queuing to get through this one man door why won't the other desks with no queue help and let you through the EU passport channel with your British passport?
Finally, what is the need to give the fellow your boarding pass?
You cannot go through Border Control - so scrub that - not everyone travelling on these routes carries a passport either - and there's no border to go through as you are in the CTA or in-country so no UKBA interest as it's outside of their operating area.
This is an airport/police issue, perhaps someone should take it up robustly with the police officer conducting the controls as his idea of customer service levels don't match your expectations of the service you believed you've paid for.......
Avoid the hassle of airports and take the ferry from Northern Ireland to the UK. Guys you're missing something really obvious here.. the border between Eire and Northern Ireland. Have you ever crossed it? Would you know when you had crossed it whilst blasting up the new motorway? Any non EU/UK person who has arrived in the Republic of Ireland can cross into Northern Ireland whenever they want and as many times as they want because there are no Immigration checks done. The risk they take is they may be caught whilst strolling around in Belfast or wherever they end up, no big deal they'll just get a caution and be sent back across the 'border'!
BTW have you never wondered why they have those big mirrors in the entry channels at airports? they're not there for you to admire yourself, guess who sits behind them? Cameras, mirrors they're everywhere.
Rumour is that the North - South Terminal link is due to shut in the summer for a complete rebuild taking a couple of years with service being provided by buses during this time.
At least in the case of CGN, the logical explanation is flybe's new service from LGW to DUS. It allows day-returns, so Easyjet had to to something about its CGN service, I guess.
RUMOUR has it that EI may start operating A330 services from LGW non stop direct to JFK and possibly caribbean routes starting from winter '09 or maybe spring '10. Anyone else heard anything of this on the grapevine?
What are the air service treaties like between the UK and Carribean countries? Have they been replaced by EU wide treaties or would EI be reliant on getting permission as a foriegn airline from the relevant governments?
Would have to say i doubt it, especially not Delta, will eat my computer if they announce that, would have to be a charter type of airline, that don't have any premium cabins to fill, because BA's WT cabin was always oversold, but there ain't enough money in that!!
Supprised it does'nt operate via Fra to be honest, maybe that flight is always full! Never saw many people getting on it, and there were offering some very juicy fares on it recently. Will be sad to not see the 340 parked up, under the control tower!!!
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