Paisley: welcome to PPRuNe, but your first post seems a little confused.
What on earth makes you think that "Irish aviation law" is the reason why Aer Arann is not flying to Angers?
You should be aware that (with the exception of PSO routes to certain Mediterranean islands ) any European airline can operate service to or between any other European countries.
Surely this was simply a commercial decision by the airline (perhaps based on lower-than-expected forward bookings, I don't know) that they could use their fleet better on other routes (e.g. Nantes, Cardiff,...)?
See, for example, a couple of the comments on this thread.
I see no ulterior motive here. Perhaps they could have done their marketing homework a bit more thoroughly, but airlines launch and then stop routes all the time. No need to devise a "coq-a-l'ane" story to explain it in this case.
If memory serves me correctly, AA have effectively switched from Angers to Nantes, which makes perfect sense. Nantes is the regional capital and a larger city in it's own right, like Angers a university town and Angers is only a train hop away in any case. Seems to make perfect sense to me.
Aer Arann did not get approval from the Department of Transport to fly into Angers. Have no idea why. That's why they have moved to Nantes. Nothing to do with forward bookings.
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has a note that the withdrawal of Aer Arann's flights is due to a decision by the Irish CAA. No further explanation there, though. Maybe just a lame excuse.
The new service will operate Monday to Friday departing Dublin at 4.00pm and Shannon at 5.25pm with a flight time of fifty minutes. The service will be operated by a 50 seater ATR42 aircraft.
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Cardiff to Dublin will become 3x daily
An additional midday roundtrip Monday to Friday effective from 3rd July 2006. The new flight will depart Dublin at 12.15pm and Cardiff at 1.55pm
I wonder if the Wesht will actually support it this time after EI swatted RE the last time. It may also make GWY nervous - with the Ennis bypass SNN is becoming closer (time wise) to their catchment all the time.
looking at the RE web site earlier and they have another new route on the page this time its london luton to neuquay,, seems to me that they have gone a little crazy of late, its route after route after route.... but i guess it does not cost a whole pile to stick the advert in the corner of the page and see if they get many bites... am glad to see them doing so well for them selves... not so long ago and they expanded internationally to shefield!!! well done to all conserned great to see this fantastic little airline musseling in on foregin soil... still think the likes of cork luton cork brussels would be worthy of a chance.. any one agree??? sn brussels did it last summer quite well..
what would the preformance of the atr to brussels...?? would it take all day?
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It's about 100NM longer than ORK-NTE, so given the performance of an ATR-72, so adding on 1/2 an hours, that would mean around 2 hours 40 mins (which is a long time to be stuck in an ATR-72). It's comfortably within the aircraft's range though.
I'd love them to look at ORK-GWY, although, the ATR-42 may have been a better aircraft for the route.
Cork Brussells was tried by Jet Magic in 2003 and was probably their least successful route. On the other hand SN Brussells did quite well on it last Summer and the yield was good as well.
The problem is that Ireland's highly centralised Government means that almost all of the EU related business traffic is ex Dublin.
SNN Charleroi was very successful initially but that was at a time when direct links from Munster to the Continent were very scarce and people used it as a means of getting to mainland europe.
Now with so many direct destinations from both SNN and ORK , FR have cut frequency on this route.
It might be worth a try though.
I think that Cork Galway might work as a leisure orientated Summer Route.
Maybe RE could give it a try this year if they have any spare capacity.
WOW regularly run full loads to LGW and FR likewise to STN. Although FR pulled their second flight out of NQY blaming the much publicised airport departure tax, it was also regularly full. With keen pricing there is no reason why this new route should not prove popular and profitable. There are plenty of people out there who wish good links to London, and there are also plenty who would rather not fly FR, myself included. Time will tell..................
on the cork brussels route,,, jetmagic did try it out and to be fair it was a big let down for them but i under stand that around the time they said they were going to cut the route they has some very good loads for a few months on the route before it stopped all together... i still think there is enough people out there for once daily at least, magic did it twice daily which i guess was over kill.... i flew in an air dolomiti atr recently and it was a very nice experence..seemed much much quiter and comfortable... compaired to the atr s at re.. maybe my imagination..but it was a plesent experence none the less.. might stick it for the two or so hours rather than the 2 hr drive to snn and the big bus ride on the other side from brussels south to the city center???
Aer Arann Cork-Galway would do very well on Fri, Sat, Sun & Monday if not daily in the summer at the very least. An easy winner. The subject has all ready been brought to RE's attention a few times over the last few years so it is over to the folk from the whest!
'Garry's proven track record and 35 years experience in the aviation industry will help us to achieve our goal of doubling the size of the airline in the next three years'
It's going to be interesting to see how much longer EI stays on some routes.
What was this guy like at EI, can't seem to remember too much about him.
You would have to ask yourself why he ended up with a very small commuter like LIAT after being Group CEO with EI.
Excellent news that RE are starting Newquay-Luton. I've been waiting for this route for a long time and intend to use it several times a year at least.
Luton is far better situated then Stansted for anyone travelling to north London or the Herts/Bucks/Beds area, and has a a far better train service to London, despite the short bus ride from terminal to train station.
Good to see that Newquay is still adding new routes despite FR having tantrums over the new airport tax and reducing flights. I'm surprised a loco operator hasn't introduced flights from Newquay to airports in Germany and the Netherlands given the large number of inbound tourists we get each year in Cornwall from these countries.
) any European airline can operate service to or between any other European countries.
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