Airlines, Airports & Routes Topics about airports, routes and airline business.

SHANNON

Old 29th Aug 2015, 18:24
  #2161 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If its there's most successful route then I cannot see them going to BFS before SNN. Belfast is closer to DUB than Shannon and I'd imagine with the weak Euro its more attractive than ever to go from Belfast to DUB.

Also, transatlantic routes are different to European.
AerRyan is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2015, 20:03
  #2162 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Róisín Dubh
Posts: 1,389
Received 11 Likes on 4 Posts
Originally Posted by AerRyan
If its there's most successful route then I cannot see them going to BFS before SNN. Belfast is closer to DUB than Shannon and I'd imagine with the weak Euro its more attractive than ever to go from Belfast to DUB.

Also, transatlantic routes are different to European.
I just reckon a second daily DUB or MAN will be higher up the list for them. Agree to disagree I guess.

On a different matter, how were the loads on the Omni 767? Did they justify the swap? With a fourth 757 allegedly joining EI on contract next year are we likely to see it return?
Una Due Tfc is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2015, 20:47
  #2163 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I didn't not agree with you in terms of MAN and 2nd DUB, I'm reserving comment on that front

I understand that BOS did quite well, the loads regularly surpassed the 757 capacity from what I hear. The reviews were quite poor though and from what I understand the 4th 757 will do an early morning JFK from DUB next year, therefore removing the need for the 757 from Shannon. Hence I can't see the 767 returning.
AerRyan is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2015, 04:34
  #2164 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Denmark
Posts: 418
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What was the issue with the Omni 767?
Copenhagen is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2015, 11:07
  #2165 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Poor cabin crew service, dated cabin, very faulty IFE, big difference from the Aer Lingus service.
AerRyan is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2015, 11:14
  #2166 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: EIRE
Posts: 51
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It really is a case of what will be required in Dublin in 2016 . One thing is for sure, you wont see an omni 767 operating out of Dublin on behalf of EI. Pilot power!
CONAIR11 is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2015, 11:40
  #2167 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,192
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Pilot power and passenger power, would do huge damage to EI at DUB.

Will be really interesting to see if FR add capacity next year and if no where will growth come from.
PPRuNeUser0176 is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2015, 15:55
  #2168 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Hearing some bad news from my source this evening, Malaga is expected to be dropped by Aer Lingus next year in favour of Düsseldorf at Cork. Faro is expected to stay.
AerRyan is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2015, 16:31
  #2169 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Co.clare Ireland
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
thats bad news could we see vueling take it on or has management been anticipating this so that ryanair may possibly increase its offering on the route
gavinhicks is offline  
Old 30th Aug 2015, 17:34
  #2170 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,781
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I think what this is very akin to is the approach IAG have taken with Iberia and BA. Focusing on markets that provide connectivity to hub ops, the other stuff outside of the core is in WW's own words, 'best suited to low cost airline operators', meaning that they won't pump resource into the most marginal of routes outside of their primary hub(s). Dub for EI, Mad for IB, and London for BA... The rest is for LOCO's...
EI-BUD is offline  
Old 2nd Sep 2015, 20:36
  #2171 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Co.clare Ireland
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
with ryanairs London s16 schedule released this morning and Dublin coming tomorrow anyone know when Shannon is due to be released and any further developments regarding aer lingus agp route
gavinhicks is offline  
Old 2nd Sep 2015, 23:11
  #2172 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AGP, FAO and FUE are starting again on the 17th of March due to the Easter season starting early.

AGP is on a AGP based aircraft this year, is that a good sign?
AerRyan is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 08:56
  #2173 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,781
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If the rumours circulating About EI potentially axing ORK AGP I wouldn't be hopeful for the SNN route by Aer Lingus...
EI-BUD is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 10:10
  #2174 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AGP is one of the most profitable routes at ORK, why would they cut an 8pw service?
AerRyan is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 10:53
  #2175 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 2,781
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes I agree AerRyan, I'm simply adding my commentary to mention a couple of pages back on the Cork thread where the discussion of a Dusseldorf route brought up the AGP suggestion take a read.

I would suspect that ORK AGP would stay but I cannot comment on how profitable or otherwise this route is as I don't access to the data on same.....
EI-BUD is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 12:34
  #2176 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
SNN-MAN being reduced to 5pw.
No Increase in ACE, AGP,PMI or ALC for the summer season.
Paris down to 2pw
Munich down to 2pw
Nice and Poitiers cancelled.
AerRyan is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 14:22
  #2177 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Co.clare Ireland
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That's horrible for the French routes is it definite now nice is only available from Dublin if thats the case you'd wonder the logic in it they had a monopoly on it this year with ei gone from cork. At least Munich is saved anyways and beauvais
gavinhicks is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 16:03
  #2178 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Ireland
Posts: 1,455
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Summer 2016 doesn't look promising at SNN
AerRyan is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 17:35
  #2179 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Co.clare Ireland
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well with the remaining schedule does it still warant the basing of a second aircraft could they announce some replacement routes to fill up the schedule or could we see a situation where a cork deal is done and some routes are launched there, wasnt shannon trying to achieve a target of 2 million passengers a year by 2017 aswell if i remember correctly.
gavinhicks is offline  
Old 3rd Sep 2015, 17:48
  #2180 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: UK
Posts: 310
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How do the transatlantic routes perform?
LandingConfig is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.