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Old 22nd Mar 2015, 23:36
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Shannon Airport are in talks with Stobart again about a return of the Birmingham route, expect it to be operated on a W pattern from ORK or DUB.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 07:32
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If that is true then I take it there will be no upcoming Ryanair route announcements for September as Michael o Leary said a few months ago
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 08:20
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Ryanair never actually said they'd start a Birmingham route (or any UK route), but they did make reference to a Copenhagen and Bratislava routes.

I'd say Shannon may be playing hardball and refusing to give any sort of deal on the routes for Ryanair so they won't start them.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 08:46
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Shannon.......playing hardball with Ryanair ...... you must be joking.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 09:03
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The way we are talking on here you'd imagine FR were desperate to operate a raft of routes out of SNN, I simply don't believe that. They will want to make profit ultimately and there definitely is the opportunity to do so but ramming 189 pax onto a plane at £9.99 is is not profitable. The airport has a thin population and would do better attracting European tourists in . At a time when FR are tight for aircraft they will undoubtedly play this to their advantage, flirting with airports on possible routes. The reality is they can make much more money flying into say Germany or Italy than BHX-SNN. SNN basically drove EIR out, quite possibly gave into FR on the MAN route, and have lost a triple daily MAN, double daily BHX, BRS and EDI as a result, and I think they are far more sustainable, and suited to smaller aircraft than some of FR's previous ventures at SNN.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 11:19
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I'm not sure I can see how that would work for either Shannon or Stobart.

From Shannon's side, Stobart have shown that they will pull out whenever pressure is applied.

For Stobart, they've seen time and again that Ryanair will target them.

There should be enough airlines at Birmingham that there are other options.

Or perhaps they could talk to VLM, as their new services from Waterford don't seem to heavily utilize the aircraft, with only 3 short-hops a day, leaving plenty of scope for at least one other UK-Ireland service.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 18:49
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vlm would be fine but shannon needs to keep a certain level of passengers on the route. stobart could carry over 40000 with a twice daily atr 42/72 a vlm fokker 50 would certainly limit the potential of passenger numbers on the route if they flew daily its probably stobart air or no one until s16 id say
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 23:01
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I believe gaps are in the schedule for a reason and I expect if all goes well at WAT they will have other plans to fill those gaps in future.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 23:03
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I read an article posted on Facebook about a day ago(Search: Shannon Airport Support Group) and it appears there are discussions with Stobart to restart BHX.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 23:24
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Breaking news confirms snn bhx 6 weekly from June an announcement to be made in the morning
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 23:26
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Originally Posted by gavinhicks
Breaking news confirms snn bhx 6 weekly from June an announcement to be made in the morning
Disappointing really. It used to be 14x weekly. That was through the winter.

No Edinbrugh or Cardiff either.
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 23:30
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Probably small fry enough to avoid FR trying to crush it
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Old 23rd Mar 2015, 23:31
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Resumes June 18 on a w rotation from Dublin it appears they must have got a good deal on charges to return hopefully Edinburgh will follow 2014 was an excellent year for them on that route
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Old 29th Mar 2015, 01:13
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Summer schedule commences in the morning. On the 28th of March, Ryanair had 6 flights. On the 29th, they have 12. Ryanair flights double for the summer season.
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Manchester and Kaunas still not bookable, why the delay?

Any news on airlines looking at a Scottish route?
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Old 31st Mar 2015, 19:07
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Originally Posted by AerRyan
Manchester and Kaunas still not bookable, why the delay?

Any news on airlines looking at a Scottish route?
Lots of routes from various airports not on sale yet main bases first then the rest will follow I would imagine if they replace the Scottish service will be stobart air
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Old 1st Apr 2015, 20:34
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Originally Posted by Runway_approach
Lots of routes from various airports not on sale yet main bases first then the rest will follow I would imagine if they replace the Scottish service will be stobart air
I honestly can't see Stobart opening a Scottish route. Maybe Flybe if they are persuaded. That's the only possibility I can think of.
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Old 1st Apr 2015, 21:10
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They gave up Glasgow fairly sharpish, although that was in competition with EIR on EDI. They seem to be chopping and changing routes on a weekly basis ATM so a few incentives might tempt them.
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FedEx are ending cork freight services from June with all flights being moved to Shannon
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Old 6th Apr 2015, 10:17
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Originally Posted by gavinhicks
FedEx are ending cork freight services from June with all flights being moved to Shannon
Nothing's being moved, the cork stop over will be abolished.
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