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Old 3rd Nov 2014, 19:01
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Surely just another demonstration of the myth of low cost air travel. It's only achieved by lumping the costs on to someone else.
I don't follow. The costs are increasing because of a reduction in the low cost passengers which would seem to demonstrate that Ryanair's business reduces losses at the airport so I don't see how that is lumping the costs onto someone else.

The Belfast Telegraph article was pretty badly written, seeming to fit a particular agenda and more designed to antagonise the ill-informed rather than to inform:

On Wednesday a spokesman for the shadow council admitted that extra money had been signed off on to cover the cost of Ryanair's demands but said that only £369,000 had been agreed.
What Ryanair demands? It actually seems to be lack of demand from Ryanair that is the problem. They have pulled a flight so the airport is making less profit so additional monies are required. Nothing to do with Ryanair demands.

At a meeting held in private in the past 10 days the super council's services and transformation committee agreed to sign off on the extra money, with the bill to be added to the annual rates collections.
This is hardly news, this is the way it has always been. Where else would the extra money come from?

The forced adoption of the airport by Strabane's ratepayers has been a major bone of contention since it was first announced that the two council areas were to merge under the Review of Public Administration.
Quite so but a couple of points. Up until now Strabane has contributed nothing to the airport despite benefitting from its presence. Same goes for Limavady despite the airport being located in Limavady council area. However as a Derry rate payer my bone of contention is that whenever the airport does make a profit that these profits will accrue equally to the Strabane rate payers despite them having contributed towards the airport for 30 years less. Of course there are a lot of other problems with the amalgamation of the local councils so we just have to accept it is imperfect.

despite the fact that only 4% of the local population actually uses the terminal.
How do they work that out? So 96% of Strabane rate payers do not use the airport? Where did they get that figure? The airport handles 400,000 pax per year so presumably with Strabane not using it then everyone in Derry used it 4 times!

No doubt the people of Strabane would be happier to use one of the two airports located nearer to the newspaper's offices.

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Old 20th Nov 2014, 15:37
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A few Ryanair diversions from Ireland West airport Knock today?

Noticed EI-DHD and EI-EKP taking off from Derry to fly to Knock, anyone know what that was about?
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 16:02
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If its anything like DUB it will be fog.
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Old 20th Nov 2014, 21:47
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These were the outbound services from knock who positioned back from Derry they operated the outbound knock services to stansted, Luton, Liverpool and lanzarote
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Old 21st Nov 2014, 04:20
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As a Strabane rate payer I will not be holding my breath to benefit from the profit that CoDA will be making despite their rather optimistic business plans.
I read the initial article in the BT and it came across as a rather cynical attempt by the airport management to lay the blame (for the uninitiated) on Ryan Air for the increasing losses.
There was a follow up article which was more accurate but the damage was done.
As a regular traveller I would prefer to use Derry but the routes are not there.

On a slightly different note I have in the past had dealings with the airport management regarding private flying and I can assure you that they are in no way general aviation friendly to the extent that few private owners keep their aircraft there if any other options are available.
In fact there are frighteningly similarities to Blackpool in most of CoDA's management methods.

I would love to see Derry make a go of it but as you point out with the present road infrastructure it's almost as handy for Strabane folks to use either of the Belfast airports.
CoDA is as your well aware a political decision airport and as such will continue to drain the council resources for the foreseeable future.

I'm not sure what you mean in that it is in the Limavady council area, if that is the case why is it being funded by Derry?

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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 19:03
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I'm not sure what you mean in that it is in the Limavady council area, if that is the case why is it being funded by Derry?
Prior to the construction of the new dual carriageway when driving to the airport from the city you met a signpost just before the turn off welcoming you to Limavady Council area.
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Old 23rd Nov 2014, 22:15
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Its in Derry council.
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Thanks Ameila
Didn't know that.
I understand that the council border between Derry and Limavady is the small stream that you cross just before the roundabout turn off to the airport, this stream borders the east side of the airport.
I have a couple of mates to the east side of the stream on Brisland rd who are happy to be on that side of it.
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Old 4th Dec 2014, 19:13
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Current Airport general manager has resigned and will leave the company in January. He will be replaced in the short term by the chap who managed Blackpool Airport, until a permanent replacement is found.
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Old 13th Dec 2014, 19:53
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This mornings inbound Liverpool and Stansted arrivals both diverted to Aldergrove. Not sure about the outbounds.

Weather is being blamed, some say fog but a few passengers on the flights posted on twitter blaming ice on the runway.

If it was ice then it is not acceptable as a Met Office warning about ice was out in advance and thus the airport should have been prepared.
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Old 13th Dec 2014, 20:04
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Passengers where bused from LDY to BFS for the outbound flights.
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The CAA stats show 6004 passengers to Glasgow in November compared with 5500 to Prestwick last November

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Old 17th Dec 2014, 16:35
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At least going in the right direction, an extra 8/9 pax each way but with the lost of BHX and LPL down as well it's going to be a poor year overall
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Old 29th Dec 2014, 12:03
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Still no Faro for any month other than July in summer 2015. It usually runs from May to October.

Surely Ryanair have finalised their 2015 summer time table by now?

If so then overall Derry Airport 2015 figures will not be too healthy. The Faro flights often showed >90% load factor plus they get a good run on the beer trolly, especially on the way out.
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CAA stats show 5663 passengers on the Derry to Glasgow route for December.
overall December is 13.9 % down on last December.

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Old 20th Jan 2015, 20:56
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Traffic rise at Belfast airports as City of Derry falls

Passenger numbers at Northern Ireland's two biggest airports increased slightly in 2014 while traffic through City of Derry dropped by a steep 9%, the Belfast Telegraph can reveal.

Traffic rise at Belfast airports as City of Derry falls - BelfastTelegraph.co.uk
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350,256 passengers for 2014, down 9.1%, heading for pre 2006 figures?

The airport master plan predicted 480,000 to 550,000 for 2015, at what point do the planners have to sit down and rewrite the plan?

How does the money being pumped in to keep this airport running stack up against the claimed benefits for the local community?

The master plan claims to contribute £14m to local economy when the passenger figures were 400,000+
Based upon these GVA per employee values, it is estimated that CoDA currently contributes £7 million to the regional economy from direct jobs and a further £7 million GVA resulting from local indirect and induced jobs. In total therefore, CoDA currently contributes over £14 million to the north west economy.
It is estimated that by 2022 CoDA will contribute £34 million to regional GVA.
Today there are 2 flights in and 2 out, It must be very expensive to have so many staff for so few passengers?
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 11:19
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Airport has confirmed via telephone that the RyanAir CoD->Alicante flight will only run during July this year.

Considering the "traditional" Derry holidays are always last week in July and first week in August this is another blow to the airport.

Has there been any confirmation on the Faro flight availability?
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 12:52
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Alot of people in close proximity to that airport choose Belfast i.e people from Coleraine or even Ballymoney or Tyrone.

When I was there it seemed like there was more people from Donegal than anywhere else. They really need to bring in more routes.. But then the problem is no one uses it.

I think when people hear derry airport they don't know about the flights out of there.
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Old 21st Jan 2015, 13:50
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I'd say the Faro flights are in the same boat and are running July only.

Really surprised at this, Faro was a good seller, have used it several times over the last few years, was even packed late Sept and early October never mind peak summer, would love to know the reasoning behind Ryanairs' decisions.

August is the summers, kids are off school and people want to go on hols, does not make sense at all.

I have no proof but I have a niggling suspicion that Ryanair may have wanted to pull the Faro and Alicante flights altogether but may have been persuaded by Airport to try July to see how bookings went before committing to any other months.
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