New Aircraft For Jet2?
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New Aircraft For Jet2?
There is a whisper going round that Jet2 (Channex) may be looking at purchasing 737-400s in the next few months. The rationale behind it is high load factors on their Jet2 Spanish flights and also on the flights they operate for Globespan, making a logical progression onto the -400.
Anybody else care to comment?
Anybody else care to comment?
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I might be wrong, but could anybody confirm to me that the Boeing 737-400, whilst being able to carry an additional 24 passengers over its smaller counterpart the -300, does have a more limited range?
Whilst greater capacity might be a huge benefit on some of Jet2 & Globespan's routes, I would be interested to know how capable the -400 is of Scotland-Spain/Portugal routes?
Whilst greater capacity might be a huge benefit on some of Jet2 & Globespan's routes, I would be interested to know how capable the -400 is of Scotland-Spain/Portugal routes?
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Channex have surplus -300s. 3 of the ex-Ansett machines have yet to be brought into service and G-LR operates for Globespan (along with 2 others which Channex lease from Islandflug).
With Globespan operating under their own (Cougar's) AOC then presumably G-LR will be eventually freed-up, giving Channex 4 to play with, so to speak. Would they really add to this by taking on -400s? Only if there are plans to expand Jet2 significantly, I would suggest.
I know that the Canaries and Cyprus are out of range for the current Jet2 fleet ex-Leeds due runway length. These are emerging seat only markets and might warant the investment in something that could do the job - probably only if there was crew / engineering compatability with the -300 though. Does the -400 fit the bill?
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With Globespan operating under their own (Cougar's) AOC then presumably G-LR will be eventually freed-up, giving Channex 4 to play with, so to speak. Would they really add to this by taking on -400s? Only if there are plans to expand Jet2 significantly, I would suggest.
I know that the Canaries and Cyprus are out of range for the current Jet2 fleet ex-Leeds due runway length. These are emerging seat only markets and might warant the investment in something that could do the job - probably only if there was crew / engineering compatability with the -300 though. Does the -400 fit the bill?
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LETS HOPE PALMAIR GET INVOLVED SOON WITH CHANNEL /JET2 AS THEY CANT KEEP THESE OLD 737 CLASSICS GOING MUCH LONGER PROBABLY ONE MORE WINTER SEASON AT THAT
ALSO PREHAPS JET 2 MIGHT SOON CONSIDER USING BOURNEMOUTH AS THERE NEXT BASE HAVING SEEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT SOUTHAMPTON AND NOW EVEN MORE SO AT EXETER , BOH IS REALLY LOSING OUT !
ALSO PREHAPS JET 2 MIGHT SOON CONSIDER USING BOURNEMOUTH AS THERE NEXT BASE HAVING SEEN WHAT CAN HAPPEN AT SOUTHAMPTON AND NOW EVEN MORE SO AT EXETER , BOH IS REALLY LOSING OUT !
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All Boeing 737-200's will be withdrawn from commercial use as of the end of March next year across Europe. So Palmair will have to source their fleet from somewhere else. Thats assuming that European can't replace their series 200's.
From next April onwards BOH should be a lot quieter place as this will mean no FR 200's either.
Might pop over to Dublin as a farewell to the 200.
All Boeing 737-200's will be withdrawn from commercial use as of the end of March next year across Europe. So Palmair will have to source their fleet from somewhere else. Thats assuming that European can't replace their series 200's.
From next April onwards BOH should be a lot quieter place as this will mean no FR 200's either.
Might pop over to Dublin as a farewell to the 200.
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682 there are two options that are a possibility for Jet2 to do Teneriffe and Cyprus neither of which need -400s. Firstly a runway extension at LBA with I believe a 300m starter strip at the 32 approach end being mooted. Secondly I believe an engine mod on the CFM56s would allow the extra range due lower fuel burn. Both are expensive one to the airport the other to the airline. Given LBA never seems to do anything until there is no other choice I guess the runway extension option is out. Given Jet2 management are shrude dudes I suspect modification of one or two of their ac might be a possibility if they want to tap these routes.
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i have never seen a low cost airline using MD83s or A320s
We even get one here each day down in the west country. Indeed I saw it today just after lunch looking very smart and pleased with life waiting to go back to Berlin.
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And the other orange brigade have been using A320s on a "Lite" operation for 2 years now. Granted it is not a stand alone airline, but they still managed to do some tight turnarounds with those aircraft, mostly succesfully. Ok, not a Ryanair 20 minutes, but still tight!
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The only thing about if it were true of getting 400's is then they would have a difference in pax numbers,say one a/c was to go tech then quite a bit of re-arranging has to be done to squeeze a 400's pax onto a 300,if you understand me.Much easier for a loco just to have total fleet commonality.
As for turnarounds if airlines like BMI for example at Belfast City were to close their check-inn like Easy's 30mins beforer departure they can be turn round in just as tight a time.We got a BMI A321 turned round back for Heathrow in 23 minutes as it was timed.
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As for turnarounds if airlines like BMI for example at Belfast City were to close their check-inn like Easy's 30mins beforer departure they can be turn round in just as tight a time.We got a BMI A321 turned round back for Heathrow in 23 minutes as it was timed.
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Tommy, do not Snowflake operate MD80s? I believe they are the low cost arm of SAS.
As for the topic, a quick look at the Boeing website tonight if I read the graph right shows the 737-400 having a slightly better range than the -300.
Waits to be shot down by the 737 drivers!
As for the topic, a quick look at the Boeing website tonight if I read the graph right shows the 737-400 having a slightly better range than the -300.
Waits to be shot down by the 737 drivers!
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"Tommy, do not Snowflake operate MD80s"
What's this then.....
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/586002/M/
One of the B737's is here....
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/516485/M/
"Tommy, do not Snowflake operate MD80s"
What's this then.....
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/586002/M/
One of the B737's is here....
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/516485/M/
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Tarek Nor - I think you missed the question mark. He wasn't saying Snowflake do not operate MD80s, but asking whether they do -which you have now confirmed.
Snowflake have to be one of the oddest LCAs in terms of types of routes operated and aircraft types used. Anyone know if their Inverness service will continue?
Snowflake have to be one of the oddest LCAs in terms of types of routes operated and aircraft types used. Anyone know if their Inverness service will continue?
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The ARN-INV service is apprently to be discontinued from 23 July due to poor pax numbers
There was mention of reserecting it with a smaller aircraft next year - I guess it'd have to be an SAS mainline Dash-8? Can't see it myself, but you never know!
There was mention of reserecting it with a smaller aircraft next year - I guess it'd have to be an SAS mainline Dash-8? Can't see it myself, but you never know!
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Dart Group (parent company of Jet 2 and Channel Express) have announced today purchase of two more 737s from Credit Lyonnais in Singapore. Are these more -300s or the expected -400s?
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I'll have to ask one of my contacts in Jet2 Engineering next time I see him. He's mentioned -400s before but not for a few months so things may have changed in this fickle business.
I s'pose it would make sense to go for the -400. I expect there's a reasonable number available and if they've got a bit more range than the existing fleet they'd be okay for the likes of Larnaca, Paphos and the Canaries whilst hopefully carrying more punters.
The -700 and -800 would probably stretch the purse strings of Dart Group a little too far at the moment. Still, whatever they get, the more the merrier.
I s'pose it would make sense to go for the -400. I expect there's a reasonable number available and if they've got a bit more range than the existing fleet they'd be okay for the likes of Larnaca, Paphos and the Canaries whilst hopefully carrying more punters.
The -700 and -800 would probably stretch the purse strings of Dart Group a little too far at the moment. Still, whatever they get, the more the merrier.
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This latest pair that have been picked up are -300's. No decision (at least publically) on whether Channex will use them for Jet2 or the charter / freight business.
This brings to 5 the number of -300s that are not yet in service.
If they also want 3 x -400's then what are they all going to do?
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This brings to 5 the number of -300s that are not yet in service.
If they also want 3 x -400's then what are they all going to do?
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