SAA is going down the Drain!
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I have tried my very best to support SAA over the past 25-odd years of flying back and forth over the Atlantic,but over the past,say three/four years or so there has been a deterioration in cabin service and increase in theft from luggage (mine) and attitude (in my opinion) to passengers.I can think of many things like being "told" to close the blinds and being "instucted" to go to sleep whilst the poor passengers themselves cannot sleep because of the crew chatting and joking and laughing so loudly.Writing nice letters about these isssues and non-operative infotainment services to saacustomerservice makes no apparent difference,nor does one get any reply.On the plus side I have always felt comfortable with the actual flying and operation and perceived safety and lack of delays and good timekeeping.I now do my best to fly back and forth on a non-SA aircraft which is less convenient time-wise but more relaxing,which is importsant to me with my hard-earned Rands.A pity as I do believe that Local is Better to support if at all possible!
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Vote with your feet and choose another carrier next time and do this again and again and hopefully someone, somewhere, in high office will notice numbers are starting to fall and question why. Maybe this won't work for SAA but you get my drift.
Problem is, a lot of people moan and go back for more....s'pose Ryanair is the classic case in point here.
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Last night, BA carried 1463 passengers out of a capacity of 1478 on its 4 flights ex CPT and JNB to LHR. (PLF 99%)
Last night, SA, carried 436 passengers out of a capacity of 539 on its 2 flights JNB to LHR. (PLF 81%)
Last night, SA, carried 436 passengers out of a capacity of 539 on its 2 flights JNB to LHR. (PLF 81%)
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BA have often said it is a highly profitable route
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Vote with your feet and choose another carrier next time and do this again and again and hopefully someone, somewhere, in high office will notice numbers are starting to fall and ask for a bail-out.
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...ask for yet another bail-out.
Corrected your correction, Mr Load.
Imagine how nice it would be if all businesses could factor in free money when planning for the future.
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Check this guy out in full SAA uniform. Tried to past the photo, but no luck.
Subject: Gigaba at the SONA Think you've seen it all? Well you isn't till you've seen this 
Opening day for the South African parliament
This clown in stealing the education, professional competency and experiences of real captains...
This moron is the new CEO of South African Airways and has never been in an aircraft cockpit, doesn’t know one plane from another and here he is in a SAA Captains uniform..
Banana republic, we have arrived.
Malusi Gigaba, the Minister of Public Enterprises arrived at Parliament today for JZ's State of the Nation speech dressed in an SAA Captain's uniform.
That, my friends, is the state of this banana nation.
I would have thought he could be charged with impersonation? Surely you can't just don a uniform of a highly qualified rank and just wear it at Lib??? T.
Opening day for the South African parliament
This clown in stealing the education, professional competency and experiences of real captains...
This moron is the new CEO of South African Airways and has never been in an aircraft cockpit, doesn’t know one plane from another and here he is in a SAA Captains uniform..
Banana republic, we have arrived.
Malusi Gigaba, the Minister of Public Enterprises arrived at Parliament today for JZ's State of the Nation speech dressed in an SAA Captain's uniform.
That, my friends, is the state of this banana nation.
I would have thought he could be charged with impersonation? Surely you can't just don a uniform of a highly qualified rank and just wear it at Lib??? T.
Está servira para distraerle.
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Mind you, and as a spot of thread drift not to be chased by the cheetah but doesn't Four Bahs Johnny Travolta have just a PPL?
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Kudos to Mr Gigaba.....he is probably the ONLY politician to EVER don a pilots uniform ! He is a proud supporter of the SAA brand.
Without his input the airline would have been sold of to a middle eastern carrier ....and that my fellow South Africans would leave us with an even greater loss of jobs. Exactly the same scenario Qantas finds itself in at the moment....
There has been a substantial effort on the part of management to improve service on all levels , including pilferage , although most of us don't agree with the way in which the anti-pilferage campaign was carried out....nevertheless they are trying. Pilot interviews are on the rise and experienced people have been hired. 3000 hours + ....most with jet experience.
Without his input the airline would have been sold of to a middle eastern carrier ....and that my fellow South Africans would leave us with an even greater loss of jobs. Exactly the same scenario Qantas finds itself in at the moment....
There has been a substantial effort on the part of management to improve service on all levels , including pilferage , although most of us don't agree with the way in which the anti-pilferage campaign was carried out....nevertheless they are trying. Pilot interviews are on the rise and experienced people have been hired. 3000 hours + ....most with jet experience.
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Shouldn't this be in the "You know you are in Africa when..." thread?
WRONG!!! Both President Bushes in the USA were qualified pilots and Winston Churchill learnt to fly in 1913!! On your own 'patch' Jan Smuts was very much involved in aviation. Of course the Afrikaner Nats and the African Nats understand sod all about aviation, so that is probably what you are talking about.
Mr Cheetah, John Travolting is in this week's Flight International with his 'four bars'! However, at least he has a PPL! And as far as I am concerned, anyone who can fly a B707 can wear four bars if he likes (especially if he owns the aeroplane!)!!
But then we should probably remember that this clown in the photograph above is just in 'fancy dress' and doesn't really affect the real world 'out there' in any way. He's good to laugh at though.
...he is probably the ONLY politician to EVER don a pilots uniform
Mr Cheetah, John Travolting is in this week's Flight International with his 'four bars'! However, at least he has a PPL! And as far as I am concerned, anyone who can fly a B707 can wear four bars if he likes (especially if he owns the aeroplane!)!!
But then we should probably remember that this clown in the photograph above is just in 'fancy dress' and doesn't really affect the real world 'out there' in any way. He's good to laugh at though.
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THe "Bushes" and Mr Churchill didn't don a pilots uniform after becoming politicians . They did so before their days in politics.
My point is that there aren't any politicians around today , who support their national airline. Most , want to sell it off privately.
Mr Gigaba feels the exact opposite to any of his colleagues in other governments.
My point is that there aren't any politicians around today , who support their national airline. Most , want to sell it off privately.
Mr Gigaba feels the exact opposite to any of his colleagues in other governments.
Está servira para distraerle.
Well then, which is it to be?
Is Gigaba a patriot for supporting the national airline or is he an idiot for promoting, in a clown like fashion, an extraordinarily cost ineffective parastatal which should be sold to the Nigerians as scrap?
Is Gigaba a patriot for supporting the national airline or is he an idiot for promoting, in a clown like fashion, an extraordinarily cost ineffective parastatal which should be sold to the Nigerians as scrap?
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I am glad that my politicians are not wasting the taxes that I pay on propping up a 'national airline' that can't stand on its own two feet. If it can't support itself then it should be left to collapse by itself (as many other failing airlines have done in the past).
I am also glad that my politicians, while they might make fools of themselves in many other ways, do not make utter fools of themselves by turning up at parliament impersonating an airline pilot!!
I am also glad that my politicians, while they might make fools of themselves in many other ways, do not make utter fools of themselves by turning up at parliament impersonating an airline pilot!!
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Coming back to the start and the comments of the OP..I had the misfortune to travel on the SAA 346 from LHR to CPT (when they did it) and we must have had the same crew..They were equally mixed racially, but I have to say it was the white crew who were vile...the seat belt signs went on abeam the coast of Spain and stayed on until Cape Town despite no turbulence or chop during the whole flight(Cowboy flight crew tbh). Same problem with window blinds etc..The heating seems to be one of their specialities, it was turned up and the cabin crew disappeared (the galley was like the Marie Celeste)and stayed so until an elderly lady fainted..then it got turnd down..Didnt have any baggage problems though, but would never fly with them again...light years in quality behind Easyjet or even Ryanair
Oh yes did have the temerity to write to the Chief Pilot (then Colin Jordaan) re the actions of the flight crew but never got a reply...quelle suprise..how they have fallen from the days of the `Orange Tail`
Oh yes did have the temerity to write to the Chief Pilot (then Colin Jordaan) re the actions of the flight crew but never got a reply...quelle suprise
..how they have fallen from the days of the `Orange Tail`
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Have we really fallen from the days of the Orange Tail ?
The days of the Orange Tail were pre democracy. It was a joke of an airline -when pilots were paid the same as train drivers.....The Orange Tail era paved the way for absolute corruption arms/ammunition and money laundering without recourse ! There was no recourse because people were afraid to question the Nats .....Less than 5% of South African people were allowed to vote and over 45% of South Africans had no electricity. Don't give me that orange tail B.S
All I'm saying is that we can see the cracks in post democracy and vote for better leadership. In the days of the orange tail SAA people had no choice !
The days of the Orange Tail were pre democracy. It was a joke of an airline -when pilots were paid the same as train drivers.....The Orange Tail era paved the way for absolute corruption arms/ammunition and money laundering without recourse ! There was no recourse because people were afraid to question the Nats .....Less than 5% of South African people were allowed to vote and over 45% of South Africans had no electricity. Don't give me that orange tail B.S
All I'm saying is that we can see the cracks in post democracy and vote for better leadership. In the days of the orange tail SAA people had no choice !
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