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Payday at Arik Air

Old 12th Jun 2010, 01:17
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not paid by Monday evening....NO flights on Tuesday 15th June 2010 that is exactly the half way point of the month and two weeks overdue salary. Who is with me ?

Why wait until then? Why aren't you calling in sick now?

You really have to decide to not work for your own. Lots will talk about it, and even promise to not work. Very, VERY, few will follow through.

Also, the local pilots have been paid, so I doubt that even fewer of them would join you anyway.

I personally will not work now until paid, and will not work in the future past the 1st until paid.
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Old 12th Jun 2010, 07:34
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If you want to name and shame, here's a website I saw a few days back (though it doesn't seem to have many names on it (fear or large numbers of good employers?) Bad Oga
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Old 12th Jun 2010, 09:24
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culled fom Bad oga aka Aj

Don't be a reluctant shareholder - It is common for Nigerian companies of any size to withold payments of staff salaries for several months. As long as the masses put up with it, the practice will continue. If you are owed a substantial sum for any lenth of time then you are a part of the Company's financial structure. As an unwilling shareholder they should be paying you dividends! Not diverting huge sums to foreign bank accounts!VERY REVEALING;EISHAJ dupees take note
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Old 12th Jun 2010, 10:41
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No Pay = No Fly

Good luck in trying to get the money out of AJ!

If / when you do - make sure you are paid in advance up to the end of whatever month you are in as a gesture from AJ for being a **** and paying late for months.

From my past experience with NG companies the only way to get what you are owed is to mess up their international operations. By that, I mean find a way that you can chase the money through legal channels in the UK, USA etc. As soon as there is a threat to a NG company's overseas 'hard currency' bank accounts they tend to pay up.

Always, have a plan B exit strategy lined up though, just in case plan A doesn't work e.g. a flexible ticket booked on VK to ACC and an offer in the pipeline from another carrier.

Nice shiny A330-200 though, makes you feel sick doesn't it when he can't even bother to pay his staff?

No wonder Messrs Holt, Roijen & Dudley got out of W3 as fast as they could - what could they see coming soon?
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Old 13th Jun 2010, 21:42
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Anonymous (but effective) shaming is possible.

I note your reference to the Bad Oga site and as one of the moderators I can tell you that the list of 'one' looks set to grow very soon. Actually, the site is very new, recently revamped from a humble start by David Winter who started the ball rolling and who stuck to his guns and got a (final) payment of wages nearly a year late. David's story would make interesting reading (I keep urging him to write a biography!).

The list should have 12 companies on it from our correspondence so far, but the avoidance of defamation charges is key to our reluctance to publish. It has to be done correctly with supporting evidence. David is most unusual in that he has the most complete and comprehensive bank of correspondence about his dispute that I have ever seen. Also his 'fear' factor is very low. Brave? foolish? he has equal measures of both traits!

In fact, that's what I really wanted to comment on in this post. That 'fear' is a what is keeping people from coming forward, there is no doubt. Certainly for people working in Nigeria. Natives and expatriates alike. Acts of retribution are always possible, even likely, when shaking a cage there, but a hundred times greater if you are in country.

The badoga site has a clever way of exposing Bad Ogas, allowing the namer/shamer to stay anonymous. I don't know if it is appropriate to explain why in this forum, but for any potential users of the site, I could make a further post to explain, please ask. But in the meantime, feel free to visit badoga and leave a message with email contact address.
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 05:07
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So, did you whiners get paid yet?
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 07:16
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So, did you whiners get paid yet?
Yes we did.


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Old 17th Jun 2010, 09:14
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See, Mr. J is not as bad as you all make out! He can now fly his XRS without a single shred of guilt!
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 11:57
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I'd "whine" too if I didn't get paid.

It would have been nice though if the OP also posted when they finally got paid instead of only when they hadn't been paid.
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 15:22
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It would have been nice though if the OP also posted when they finally got paid instead of only when they hadn't been paid.

Why would that matter. We were paid late. The same as the month before, and the month before that, and so on.

I did get paid for May, halfway into the month of June.

So, I'll start a new thread on what is surely to be a repeat. This time, I believe, the pilots might have had enough.
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 15:27
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Question Arik Air... How Late will Salaries be for June???

The pilots mostly (there are pilots with their pay being "held" for various nefarious reasons) were paid for May, mid way into June.

What day will pay be received for June? Will pilots sickout before that day?
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 19:52
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Without some unity you only make yourself a target.

Easier to find unity and honour in a whorehouse, only put your head above the parapet if you KNOW 100% that the majority will join you, OR you have another job to go to.

A word to the wise
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Old 17th Jun 2010, 23:31
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Nationalisation

Word from the grapevine is that Arik might change ownership!

Interested buyer is the Federal Government of Nigeria, yes, Arik might be nationalised!

In my own opinion, it seemed a matter of time before such a thing happened, judging by the strict belief of the rumour mill that the funds for Arik came from a certain oil rich state in Nigeria.

My question is that shouldn't it be a certain State Government chasing the ownership, why FGN? Possible answer to this question is linked to the recent announcement of a ₦500bn injection into the aviation sector.

Enough said!
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 07:01
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Interested buyer is the Federal Government of Nigeria, yes, Arik might be nationalised!

A little rename to Nigerian Airways, and all should be well. Then nationalize Air Nigeria (giving its owner a handsome short term profit), combine the two, and call it a day.
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 07:57
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Bravo Oba1!

You seem to be in the know. What you've described is what i deliberately left out in my post. Its part of the grand plan with the half-a-billion cash injection recently announced. Maybe you might want to spill more than i do.

Heard the news about the A330 fine which broke within the last 72hrs?

Interesting drama in this captivating Arik-enders.
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 11:39
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I hope the rumors regarding Air Nigeria & Arik are not true. Nigeria Airways was a mess when govt. owned, I see no change should govt. get into majority ownership of another airline. It will basically turn into personal transportation for the who's who in politics.

I hope the sins of Nigeria Airways past doesn't come back to haunt anyone again.
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 15:17
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Air Nigeria has the IATA / IOSA approvals that Arik may never get (now almost 4 years as an airline).

Arik is a management DISASTER. The singular thing that this father / son team is good at is spending other people's money on shiny new airplanes.

Would this combined, government run entity, be better than what is currently available? Probably not, but as long as there's oil to back up the Nigerian government, there will be money to subsidize a national airline... until it is completely mismanaged into insolvency.

Sorry that my synopsis doesn't have a happy ending.
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 15:40
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When the government was running things at whiskey tango there was a change a Managing Director/CEO at least once year. It was nepotism and pilfering was at it’s very best.

Keep them out of things, they can’t even run a country properly, what hope does an airline have!
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 15:49
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When the government was running things at whiskey tango there was a change a Managing Director/CEO at least once year. It was nepotism and pilfering was at it’s very best.

Keep them out of things, they can’t even run a country properly, what hope does an airline have!

Oh yes, there will be gross nepotism !!!! But, what is the record for Arik on MD's? Two in less than one year, and currently no MD. Some standard.
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Old 18th Jun 2010, 19:57
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The DR. CAPT. has set another record

Heard the news about the A330 fine which broke within the last 72hrs?

N25, 000 000 fine to Arik for Dr. Capt. Randy flying his shiny new A330 without a valid license.....heard his nickname is now "Zebra" on account of all the stripes he now has.
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