Conversion From Faa To Kcaa (kenyan) License

[bond7]

Am sure there're threads about this subject, but can anyone shed some light on the current conversion rates...the whole process...good instructor referrals to go to without having to pay an arm and leg for my check ride.

Am aware they use the Baron 58...for the conversion...and am lucky to have logged some hours in it.

Thanks.

[zubs]

i found this on the kenya school of flying website

If you have a foreign commercial pilot's licence(CPL multi)and you need to convert it, then KSOF is the place.

Requirements for conversions to Kenyan CPL :
- Kenyan Medical class one
- 100 hrs solo
- 10 hrs in last six months (solo)
- Kenyan R/T licence
- Undergo ground school conversion course( Fee = Kshs 45,000)
- ground school conversion exam(Fee= kshs 10,000)
- Multi-engine rating - Flight check ride
- Instrument Rating - Flight check ride by KCAA flight examiner
- 250 hrs total time
- 40 hrs instrument (20 hrs max sim)
- Tecnical Type Rating - MultiForm 64(flight checkout)-Multi
- Multi / IR exam by K.C.A.A flight examiner

hope it helps

i too might be heading down to kenya to convert my licence again, let me know how it goes

cheers.

[french_fry]

Its a long and difficult process and largely depends if you have any local support (company) or if you decide to this by your self...
What is your experience? are you coming here for pleasure or for work? what types do you fly?
Make sure all your documents are up to date and in order. Logbooks stamped, Medical, IR, pretty much everything. Also keep in mind that the FAA does not issue ratings for aircraft under 12,500lbs yet the KCAA is like the UK system and has secific rating for each aircraft, so go to your FSDO and have them put on your license or have proof that you have experience in your logbook. Also, for example if you will fly a BE20 here, you will need to physically do the test on that specific aircraft to have it on your license, It's called a Form 64.
If you meet all the requirements for a commercial or ATPL here: you need to do a conversion exam, a medical exam, a form 64 flight test (3 TO and lndgs), and an IFR flight test. a couple flight schools have examiners who can help.
Good luck it is costly, and its a dreadful process, not to mention highly time consuming...

[Csanad007]

pain in the a// but if you succeed it is worth

I alsp asked this question a few weeks ago, here's the reply I got from a guy who's been trying his luck there. Also I have some more info but won't copy it here, just view my blog through my profile (you can just search in the blog for kenya and you'll get the related posts). I also got reply from East African Air Charters company with mainly the same end.

So the answer to my question:

I just got back from 2 months over there.
Pilot licence conversion test for CPL is on the second thursday of each month. Only this day. Dont miss it. It costs $200 us dollars. I dont know what your licence is like but the Kenyan exam is a lot different than the canadian one. A good deal of the questions are written in broken english and the words combined do not equal a sentance. Its multiple choice and done on a computer.You go to the Kenyan civil aviation authority to book the test. You go across the building to pay for the test at the Kenyan revenue authority. You then go back to the Aviation authority then they tell you when and where to write the test. The test is on the old airport road down a small road at the East African School of flying. Despite confirming and visiting several times to make sure i was booked for certain date they still did not have me on the list when i arrived. Had to stand in the Testing office and demand that i could write the test for one hour and refuse to leave before they allowed me to write.
If you go a couple weeks ahead of time you can get a flying shool to prep you for the exam. Dont know the cost of that process though. Once you have a licence in hand some of the companies will then talk to you.
The work permit is around $2000 USD. You may have to bribe someone an equal amount to actually get them to process it. It is a two year permit. If you have just finished your CPL and have 2-300 hours they may just flat out deny you the permit since there are a lot of kenyans in the same boat.
You can avoid a work permit with the right company and out of country placements.
If you can get in you are in a great position. If nobody is willing to take you on try to convince them to let you work the ramp for a while and you will end up flying a fair bit and logging hours when they need somebody. Most kenyan pilots wont give you the time of day but a lot of the expats can be quite helpful. It will be an adventure...

[bond7]

Zubs, French fry...thanks a bunch and Csanad007...thank you and I'll be looking for the related info on East African aviation.

...Any Instructor referalls? l'll try KSOF...Is Captain Ririani still available at the Wilson FBO...rumour has it...he's been trying to relocate his base to Malindi...for obvious reasons...better performance and less stress on the engines...

Thanks y'all.

[Donateloh009]

conversion

hi there,
am currently diong the conversion myself from FAA to kenyan. its quite a process for sure. the conversion exam of 100 q's is flawed i think, but i passed it on my third try. each seating is 10k, also did the performance A and Gas turbine. there is a new school called Nairobi flight Training. I never did my multi so am planning to do it here. if you need information, let me know if i can be of any help. i don't get online that much, bt will make a point to do so each day or two. internet is real slow and irritating some times so i rather enjoy my beer bila stresss...lol

[singesavant]

hi there,

Is there anyone who can described the medical examination in kenya?
Similar than the FAA one?
I am thinking of the first class to convert my faa cplh...
Also any input on the process for cplh convertion?

[contract4]

Hi Guys.

I'm currently looking at converting my FAA CPL to the Kenyan CPL and I have a problem. Hopefully someone can help me.

I need to start studying for the Composite Paper / Conversion Exam but I just cannot find books. It seems that Kenyan CPL Ground School books don't exist, which is crazy!! I'm aware the Kenyan regs are based on the South African regs but does that mean I have to get the SA Commercial books to study? I've tried but got no answer from anyone in Kenya about books. People like Kenya School of Flying and CMC Aviation are just not helping me at all. If someone says to me that 'X' book exists and it costs 'X dollars' and can be purchased from 'X' then fantastic; i'll buy it and start studying tomorrow. But does such a book exist? Is there anyone who has been able to obtain such a book? If not then what do I study?

It's really frustrating.

Please can someone help? Cheers.

[Donateloh009]

hello,
sorry for your frustrations. This is our motherland and though flawed in some areas, its up to us to be its better future. So, welcome back! there isn't really a book as such. the only thing I would say is for you to get a hold of the JAA ATPL questions. many of them come from there. also, the different schools offer classes for conversion. ask around and am sure you will get the best advice for how to go about your conversion if you keep your ears on the ground....

[booze]

Exactly. The questions are identical to the ones in the JAA ATPL database. Study those and you'll pass. Last year the passmark was 70%. 100 questions total: 6-8 questions from each of the 14 JAA ATPL subjects.
Hope this helps. Did for me

[atpcliff]

Hi!

JAA ATPL Exam Subjects | AviationTire.com

[contract4]

Thanks guys. Thanks for the advice. That's good to know the JAA notes will work. Thanks for the link Cliff.

[Jockey Straddler]

Also...............

Shall speed things up if you acquire one of the local names like Njoroge or Kamau.
Not sure now but it took me 8 months to convert.

[FGC]

East African Conversion

Has anyone converted a Tanzanian/Ugandan ATPL or commercial licence to a Kenyan equivalent recently? Is it easier to convert an existing East African Licence, or must you still go through the same sh**e as any other foreign licence?

[atpcliff]

Hi!

It IS easier to convert from an East African license. Does not mean that the process is EASY, however!

[bond7]

Thanks Cliff

[selineikas]

From CAA to kenyan

Hi . I'm currently doing my CPL in South Africa. And I would like to explore as many options as possible here before I get back to Kenya.

Could you please furnish me with information concerning conversion of CAA CPL to the Kenya one. Is it advisable to write the CAA ATPL exams then convert or would it just be better to get back to Kenya and write my ATPL exams there?

[Vc10Tail]

bond7

If you want to convert your FAA to KCAA you must be a risk taker if you are foreign..the conversion cost can run up to $USD 4-5000..plus staying and sundry expenses. How do you feel about the fact that many Kenyan pilots are unemployed and have petitioned the Ministry of Labour and KCAA against allow foreign pilots coming to take up employment?
Kenyans regularly get refused visas to go and train in USA...let alone being granted flying employment there..it is a quid-pro-quo status...

[Trim Stab]

Has anyone converted a Tanzanian/Ugandan ATPL or commercial licence to a Kenyan equivalent recently?

If you have a KCAA licence you can obtain a Tanzanian licence just by sitting the Tanzania Air Law exam. I think the process is reciprocal.

[Trim Stab]

If you want to convert your FAA to KCAA you must be a risk taker if you are foreign..the conversion cost can run up to $USD 4-5000..plus staying and sundry expenses. How do you feel about the fact that many Kenyan pilots are unemployed and have petitioned the Ministry of Labour and KCAA against allow foreign pilots coming to take up employment?

It is still cheaper for Kenyan operators to "import" experienced foreign pilots who have type-specific experience and convert their licences to KCAA than to pay for Kenyan pilots to go overseas for type-ratings.

I agree, however, that there is little point in low-time foreign pilots without type-ratings coming to Kenya nowadays. For low-timer jobs, much better to employ Kenyan pilots who know the local weather and terrain, and who have been trained to fly at the madness of Wilson...