Sky guy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> . .Yeah it can be like that. Never fail to hear an offer to buy me a drink though.. .The company that had the islanders supplied us with Telex active noise cancelling head sets. (A cheap model). They were rubbish. The fit was poor and they still let in a fair bit of noise. It was very fatiguing after 4-5 hours. So I started to wear ear plugs with the head sets. Then I figured I may as well use the trusty Dave Clarks if I was going to use ear plugs too.. .After a while, every one started doing that + knocking off the David Clarks from the Reims 406 and Dash 8. The company ended up getting rid of the Telex's and fitting out the piston fleet (Islanders + a Shrike) with David Clarks. I think they went for either 13.4's or 10-30's. I can't remember.. .I usually use my own or at least use my own cloth covers as it reduces the chance of passing germs etc. I have used them for 13-14 years in a variety of environments. I have dropped them, kicked them and generally given them a hard time.. .I use David Clarks as they are solid, repairable and trustworthy. Well worth the money. Like sunnies, buy the best you can afford. Hearing and vision are vital to our profession.