Speaking from an instructors experience - as a students DO NOT buy noise canceling headsets. You lose an entire channel of information if you do.. .. .For example during a stalling exercise after a little while you can fly the aircraft to the buffet nibble largely on your ear (sounds mildly kinky I know). A PFL glide speed can be gauged to +-5kts on wind rush alone whilst eyes stay out of cockpit.. etc. etc.. .. .The Peltors at Jerez are OK, not the best and not the worst. If you are going to have your own set then I commend David Clark 13.4's. I have has students use them with me and they cause no problems in the Jerez aircraft. The only thing to watch is that if you leave them in the sun (easy enough in Andalucia) with black gel seals and then pop them on your head... fill in the rest with sudden screaming!. .. .These days I am using a custom moulded earpiece (no headband required) on a Plantronics mini boom mic that all in weighs 3.5 grams and very nice it is too at £210 a go. But I still like my DC's and in fact they are very good plugged into the hi-fi for when I get back from work at 3 a.m. need to PPRuNe and relax to some music whilst not waking Miss Welshman. DC 13.4's regularly appear on second hand For Sale aviation forums.... .. .WWW. .. .ps Spelling and grammar rules you make yourself on this forum. Its not a job application BUT it is good practice for one. SMS style text message prose IS NOT WELCOME purely for my own despotic hatred of it. L8tr ppl. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />