Originally Posted by
lingdee
s.monkey, you mention during his time , he said there were no p2f, obviously this chief pilot ( or maybe you are that chief pilot yourself ), started his career ages ago when there are not so many pilot and type rating are still being sponsored and there still are jobs available for cpl
lingdee, he started his aviation career in the early 1980's and believe me, it was just as competitive then to get your first job in aviation as it is now. It has never been easy and where we come from, it was unheard of then, that you walk in an airline fresh from flying school. You usually need around 1000 to 1500 hours before you can even be eligible to apply for an airline job, and this is still the case now for the major airlines. It has never been easy, and those who did complete their CPL/IR but weren't motivated enough to gain hours flying small piston engine aircraft in the outback doing charter or scenic flights or become flight instructors, fell away by the wayside and pursued other careers outside of flying. There was no such thing and P2F then. Infact, there was no P2F at all in Indonesia until around 2009/2010 when EagleJet came in to the picture and approached Lion Air with the offer. Other Indonesian airlines quickly followed suit with Sriwijaya jumping on board. Merpati only had a few P2F but the majority of foreigners who were recruited only paid for their license conversions but the type rating and line training was provided by the company free of charge. I believe there's only one group of P2Fs amongst the Citilink recruits with others having already an A320 TR with time on type before being recruited.
My mates in lion got into korean and especially flyscoot and qatar on the B777 because they have the jet hours from lion air. So for qr, you guys accuse it of having loads of money to buy award, so in this case how about flyscoot , which you have to pay for the rating even you are experience. Isn't it own by a renowned airline such as Singapore airline and Singapore government?
So here you have the situation where your mate paid to fly to get jet experience, and once he had the experience, he then pays again to get another TR. Where do you think Scoot got that idea from?
That just shows how the industry is heading thanks to the P2Fs. It never used to be that way. Indonesia only started having P2Fs after Lion made that huge order of 739s and that was only in the last 4 years or so.
Thank goodness the DGCA is putting a stop to this right now by bringing in the 250 hours on type rule. And with the two recent incidents which involved P2F pilots in the RHS of those accidents, it's very unlikely that the DGCA will do a back flip on this ruling.