Like I said. If there is somewhere I don't see anyone pointing the way. The next thing to look to see is happens to the first guys who start hitting on 55 years old and how many will extend to 65 on the 'reduced' terms. Maybe then the argument will no longer be just on new joiners. It's actually across the board. No one is spared. When premium passengers flew on premium airlines paying premium salaries. Pilots got top dollar. Now 'everyone can fly' for a price of a bus ticket sometimes. No need to be an economics major. It's never gonna be like before.