212man, thought you were true blue 92. Get typed on the 139? Ground school was a while ago, but I dimly remember that with a loss of #2 hyd fluid taking out the utility system the gear can still be extended by pushing the emerg button and then lever down to match the switch/position logic. If it doesn't lock, the #1 pressure will hold it down until the rotor decays to about 20%. It would be bad luck to lose the #2 system and have have the gear not lock down at the same time, but Weststar seems to have more than their share of bad luck with landing gear. Training fodder for next year.