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Old 19th Oct 2012, 13:41
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edie
 
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All EU memberstates already have a EU-passport:Click
Just look above the name of the country. Although the EU exists of different member state the foreign politics is dealt with on a European level. So was the open skies agreement.
Again, I understand your argument, so good luck with your cause. All you have to do now is convince both the EU and the US Government to adopt your point of view. Until the EU is represented by one seat in the UN I don't think the US will be inclined to agree, but that is just my personal opinion.

You see how well the EU carbon tax scheme went over Senate to EU: US airlines won't pay carbon tax - CSMonitor.com

Republican Senator John Thune, a sponsor of the measure, said it sent a "strong message" to the EU that it cannot impose taxes on the United States.

"The Senate's action today will help ensure that U.S. air carriers and passengers will not be paying down European debt through this illegal tax and can instead be investing in creating jobs and stimulating our own economy," Thune said in a statement.
From the State Department fact sheet it says: Open Skies Partnerships: Expanding the Benefits of Freer Commercial Aviation

What Are Open Skies?
Open Skies agreements between the United States and other countries expand international passenger and cargo flights by eliminating government interference in commercial airline decisions about routes, capacity and pricing. This frees carriers to provide more affordable, convenient and efficient air service to consumers, promoting increased travel and trade and spurring high-quality job opportunity and economic growth. Open Skies policy rejects the outmoded practice of highly restrictive air services agreements protecting flag carriers.
From the agreement U.S.-EU Air Transport Agreement Signed April 30, 2007

ARTICLE 3

Grant of Rights

1 . Each Party grants to the other Party the following rights for the conduct of international air transportation by the airlines of the other Party :
the right to fly across its territory without landing ;
the right to make stops in its territory for non-traffic purposes ;
the right to perform international air transportation between points on the following routes :
for airlines of the United States (hereinafter "U .S . airlines"), from points behind the United States via the United States and intermediate points to any point or points in any Member State or States and beyond; and for all-cargo service, between any Member State and any point or points (including in any other Member States) ;
for airlines of the European Community and its Member States (hereinafter "Community airlines"), from points behind the Member States via the Member States and intermediate points to any point or points in the United States and beyond ; for all-cargo service, between the United States and any point or points ; and, for combination services, between any point or points in the United States and any point or points in any member of the European Common Aviation Area (hereinafter the "ECAA") as of the date of signature of this Agreement; and (d) the rights otherwise specified in this Agreement .

2 .Each airline may on any or all flights and at its option :
operate flights in either or both directions;
combine different flight numbers within one aircraft operation ;
serve behind, intermediate, and beyond points and points in the territories of the Parties in any combination and in any order ;
omit stops at any point or points ;
serve points behind any point in its territory with or without change of aircraft or flight number and hold out and advertise such services to the public as through services ;
make stopovers at any points whether within or outside the territory of either Party ;
carry transit traffic through the other Party's territory ; and
combine traffic on the same aircraft regardless of where such traffic originates ; without directional or geographic limitation and without loss of any right to carry traffic otherwise permissible under this Agreement .

3 . The provisions of paragraph 1 of this Article shall apply subject to the requirements that :
for U.S . airlines, with the exception of all-cargo services, the transportation is part of a service that serves the United States, and ii
for Community airlines, with the exception of (i) all-cargo services and (ii) combination services between the United States and any member of the ECAA as of the date of signature1 of this Agreement, the transportation is part of a service that serves a Member State .

4 . Each Party shall allow each airline to determine the frequency and capacity of the international air transportation it offers based upon commercial considerations in the marketplace . Consistent with this right, neither Party shall unilaterally limit the volume of traffic, frequency or regularity of service, or the aircraft type or types operated by the airlines of the other Party, nor shall it require the filing of schedules, programs for charter flights, or operational plans by airlines of the other Party, except as may be required for customs, technical, operational, or environmental (consistent with Article 15) reasons under uniform conditions consistent with Article 15 of the Convention .

5 . Any airline may perform international air transportation without any limitation as to change, at any point, in type or number of aircraft operated ; provided that, (a) for U.S . airlines, with the exception of all-cargo services, the transportation is part of a service that serves the United States, and (b) for Community airlines, with the exception of (i) all-cargo services and (ii) combination services between the United States and a member of the ECAA as of the date of signature of this Agreement, the transportation is part of a service that serves a Member State .

6 . Nothing in this Agreement shall be deemed to confer on :
U.S . airlines the right to take on board, in the territory of any Member State, passengers, baggage, cargo, or mail carried for compensation and destined for another point in the territory of that Member State ;


7. Community airlines' access to U .S . Government procured transportation shall be governed by Annex 3 .

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