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Old 17th August 2012 | 07:43
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mynameisjon
 
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@rotatejunkie, you can do all the name calling you want, but I'm not going to change my tune here just because you're too immature to have a proper debate without resorting to insults.

First off, I have a jet job. I went that extra mile. For me everything fell into place easily. I met the right people at the right time and was in the right places.

I also recognise the changes afloat in Indonesia, as well as that I'm extremely lucky to have what I have. I am that 1% I was talking about. In all honesty, I probably didn't even work half as hard as the next guy I beat for the job.

Not everyone is going to be lucky.

You talk about neighbouring countries with jobs?

Malaysia has protectionist laws for their pilots.
Indonesia.. Well I'll talk about that later.

Further out? Don't even dream about it.

If you got to ST Aerospace, MAYBE you get a flight instructor job once you're done. If you're okay with that, good on you. Make sure you get that CAAS license and NOT a CASA one.

Massey University? Do they STILL advertise than MOU with CAAS? No longer valid. Well at least you get a degree out of it. Maybe you can be a lecturer.

FAA? You will NEVER get a job in the US. You can try the great white north, it's only a 20 question conversion and then a float endorsement. Of course then again, it's become increasingly harder for those operators to get your the required work visas.

JAA? You'll have a really nice license, but you'll be in a bigger hole than everyone else. Europe has no jobs for non-EU pilots, so look elsewhere.

Well there's always Africa.

About Indonesia (the last stand of the foreign pilots)

I know the facts about Susi Air. I have a friend in Susi air, so why don't you take your attitude and shove it? As corrupt as the DGCA is in Indonesia, when they consider suspending an operator, it says something. You can blame the weather all you want, but flt ops dispatched the aircraft and the crew made the decision to go. It says something about company culture there.

1% good enough to plonk down almost 200k on a piece of paper that will not get you a job anywhere outside of a cockpit? No it's not. Not in Singapore when you don't have unemployment benefits.

200k in the whole is not a fun place to be. Bankruptcy is easy, but for most kids, their parents foot the bill. I don't think 1% chances are worth risking my parents retirement over.

Stop saying that you know people who went over and got jobs without showing the other side of the coin.

Look at India. It's precisely the "1%" chance that destroyed their industry and their workforce. No chance of a job, but people left and right saying "go for it. passion is all you need". Being part of the problem? Me? No. It's your "1% chance go for it" mentality that's the problem.

I would LOVE to say that if you keep at it long enough you'll land a job, but 99 out of 100 times you won't.

Turboprop jobs in Jakarta will disappear in a month or two once the recruitment agencies sign deals to exclusively recruit. Same thing happened for A320 and B737 jobs. Last year you could fly down here and hand them your resume and you'd get a call. No longer. Unless you have another 40k USD in your pocket, it's not going to happen.

I've been in your corner, rooting for the little guy to get their jobs, but the real world beckons.

Don't tell people to spend their parents hard earned money, or take out that 5% loan for a license. It is NOT worth it (unless you manage to convince SFC to let you in as a self-sponsored candidate). That is what I'm saying.

Get a degree, apply for a cadetship. If it doesn't work out, you tried. You can always get your PPL and on your own time when you've got a job that pays the bills.

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