but talking to this mob is like trying to reason with "Noddy and Big Ears"
Well we agree on one (and probably only one) thing. Nobody is going to be convinced of the others position no matter what we say. So I think I'll give it a rest. PeterC can of course continue to fight the good fight.
BTW, the millions (it was actually a billion) dollars for the "care industry" might come in handy when you get even older and grumpier, so that the worker in your aged care home takes home more cash than the local kid at McDonalds.
And "Federal shadow treasurer Joe Hockey said the coalition supported the pay increases", as does Barry O'Farrell according to the SMH on the weekend. Don't know abut CanDo, he's too busy burning books.
On the auto industry, the Liberal State Govt kicked in some cash as well, and the federal Libs said they'd review it but "supported continuing and targeted assistance to the industry".
You've really got to stop picking on Labor for things that the Coalition agrees with (like CO2 reduction targets, for example) and have said they'll do as well. Choose something they actually disagree on, like IR.