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I do not know a single person who got his ATPL/CPL/IR etc, and has not found a job
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I do not know a single person, having a stake in FTO, that would not agree with you, despite me pointing out that jobs outside cockpit (or aviation) don't count towards "getting a job with ATPL" quota.
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Where exactly are those green shoots of recovery
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In the exaltation of various training organizations and have been there at least since I've started paying some serious attention to aviation, some two decades ago.