Thanks again for input, but I'm not interested in competition aeros and as my previous post explained, I used to own a Pitts - I'm looking for just a simple, rugged all rounder that is capable of basic aeros - loops, rolls, cubans, stall tuern ( hammerheads ) etc - something i can go places in, fly out of grass strips, throw around, maybe even instruct in in the future - an aeroplane that i can keep for many years and that I know is going to be affordable. The Fuji FA 200 and others sound interesting though - I'll check them out. Thanks again.