Just thought I would give this thread a bump, I know it is singling out someone and they are probably a nice guy but I want people to realize that PTF schemes do not work and just wast your money. Turkish777 who started this thread did a scheme with eagle jet in 08 and is still looking for a job, you can see this by looking at past posts. Not only does PTF put qualified people out of work as you are PAYING to do the job of an FO if does not help you and you could end up like this guy, really scraping the bottom of the barrel considering lion air, a very dodgy outfit from Indonesia where incompetent pilots have killed 100's of people. Pay is terrible, living conditions are terrible, why pay 10,000's pounds to get some experience whilst putting qualified people out of work so you can look for jobs like this and it appears not get it. It is a waste of money, destroys the industry and does no one any good as you are shooting yourself in the foot.