Dear MD11F and all,
after reading this topic I have to admit that I understand both sides...
1. When I finished my ATP (Iīm german) the bloody first gulf war started and I applied around the world and I had a recommendation from Cpt. M, beeing the chief training of the B737 in LH and also from Mr. R to join LH. However it turned out that I was not good enough for the Union for two reasons.
Not done the LH flight school, and also no Abitur but the BOS (Entitels to FH eg Dipl Ing).
On the other hand I experienced a total protectionism within the other EU countries... I applied with KLM, AF, IB, etc and they all told me that Iīm welcome when I speak their language....
So what is it about? IMHO every company has the right to set up their requirements since THEY pay you the money at the end of the month. There are also political issues involved like:
If eg. LH has to choose between a french or a german pilot, the should take the german guy (when both have the same qualifications) since they would at these days lower the numer of unenployed people and thus lower the expenses the german state has to pay for an unemploqed guy...
AF, IB, etc would do the same.
Finally I decided to leave the german market because if you are not in LH you have to fly for food... I joined CV many years ago and I had a career I would never have had with LH.
I know quite many guys from LH, most of them former LHCG. They all left CGO and went to the main line... and they like it.
MD11F, sorry to say so, but the fact is that you sit in a golden cage with the option to change after 5 years to the main line (pls donīt tell me anything different, otherwise you are not what you pretend to be) and if you have a problem flying with the not to beautiful girls in LH, sorry this is not acceptabel. Most of us do the job because we love it, but never forget about the boys and girls not having a job for the time beeing... You, MD11, are inside the Manteltarifvertrag and you really donīt have to worry, at least for the time beeing, to loose your job.
To the VC: why did the LH club not intervene that Aero Logicīs CEO came from CV and that also his right hand was former CV fleet chief and in the end the chief Flt Ops is the former LTU VP Flt OPS (of course he tryīs to get in his mates from LTU since he knows what he getīs)....
Basically you can forget about any avi job in germany unless you are with LH or (I donīt know the conditions) Aero Logic. Flying for AB? You better drive a taxi and have more money at the end of the month.
Think about it
HURZ
Last edited by HURZ; 21st July 2009 at 08:35.