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Old 22nd June 2009, 15:20   #23 (permalink)
T668BFJ
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Devon
Age: 32
Posts: 45
I have always loved reading these posts, and always marvel at the nievity of my colleagues in RYR.

IT still baffles me that people think BALPA is trying to get recognition in RYR. In real terms BALPA dont care, and I dont mean that in a bad way.
They are a business aswell, the point here is their business is representing the interest's of their members (who pay the bills).

The RYR BALPA compaign, started by BALPA ?? NO.
They are here for and only becuase we the RYR pilots have asked them to come and do it.
BALPA is the pilots, the only way anything gets done is becuase the piltos want it. BALPA gain nothing from any of it except membership fees from those that are members.

I want BALPA or any kind of union to represent me and my interest becuase I know, having asked question at the numerous RYR pay deals I have been at, and having walked out of 2 that the management not only dont care about your questions / opinions, it is blatently obvious their not even listening.

Take the last pay deal, negotiate with us ?? Ok on advise from BALPA we did just to have the proof it doesnt work.
What did RYR do, they actually handed us the proof, whether they realise it or not.

You cant draft a pay deal, say come back to us, which we did with suggestions, only to be sent an ammended deal that take into account none of what you suggest but miraculously is almost identical to every other base.
Either we all asked exactly the same question that thye were not prepared to answer, or the ammended deal was already written before they came to us.

Now I leave you to draw your own conclusions on that, but to me its pretty obvious.

In conclusion, BALPA = RYR PILOTS (for the benefit of our campaign).
Our livelyhood, T&C's, lifestyle self respect and proffesionalism are in our hands not some third party.
Only if we succeed in recognition, withou it we carry on with the same do as your told this is what your getting way of life. = No control what so ever.
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