Slight thread creep...I believe that a previous post suggested BA has two pension schemes - not correct. There are three: APS, NAPS and good old BARP(of which I'm a member). I must admit that when I hear (is this rumour only or is there any truth in these numbers?) of APS retirees (ex captains) enjoying 6 figure pensions I do feel somewhat green eyed when I look at what I'm likely to be surviving on down the line. I confess to knowing v little about pension fund mgmt but it strikes me as improbable to say the least that there is no connection between the generous retirement benefits available to APS members and the NAPS funding issues and poor level of benefits available in BARP.