Take a reality check Monty and then come and join us in the real world. The scheme was over a billion pounds in deficit at the last valuation. Read that again. Over a billion pounds. It'll be three times that this time. IT DOES NOT WORK. THERE IS NO MONEY TO PAY FOR THE PENSIONS ANYMORE. Against that backdrop you think pilots, and pilots alone, can force BA to keep open a scheme which is now nothing more than a gaping hole in the balance sheet that will never be adequately funded. What planet do you people live on?