what you or i individually think as realistic is academic
what matters is what we as a group think is realistic
a collective vote decides
majority rules
IR law makers handed over the decision to each workforce to make final decision on whether work agreements up for offer are accepted or not
so it comes down to a collective decision
best our workgroup is surveyed accurately and fairly then

otherwise people department will never know what we as a collective will and wont accept as a fair go
fairness might start with 28 day rosters equalling maximum of 130 ordinary hours -ordinary hrs as per FAAA AVL notice- gives them 25 extra hrs a year which when costed out is worth approx $500 average per cc pa
a fair go would have to include backpay to september because we have worked hard to keep company up there since our last payrise
the lesser of two evils would be lower pay for newbies but AVL rates should be same for every cc and same for every cs and based on the higher rate so that newbies not overused as cheaper inhumane option
thats at least worth 3.6% right there and no more
if they still want us to have a mix of flying and AVL they have to give us 10 days off each roster anyway its not a bonus or a valid vote buyer