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Old 21st August 2008, 13:31   #15 (permalink)
AirScrew
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: EGHP
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I think this is great post, and a good suggestion.

Effectively, this is communicating with each other indirectly but through the ATC or A/G controller.

If I dont have a clear mental picture of where the other a/c are in the circuit, based on what I can see and what I can hear, then I worry.
Anything another pilot can do to help the situational awareness OF OTHERS must be a good thing.
Any a/c who was given #2 on finals, as in your post, but could NOT see an a/c ahead, should have alarm bells ringing in his/her head, and inform ATC.
Yes I know all about A, N, C, and that the approach is a high workload, but in the circuit we should still have enough bandwidth left to communicate.

My comments are specifically based on some flying experience in the USA at uncontrolled airfields which have a unicom frequency, or revert to it out of hours, where pilots call their position in the circuit, wether the circuit is empty or busy, effectively transmitting 'blind'.
I can tell you, this provides the rest of us with a truly clear picture of whats happening in, and around the circuit.

I think this is an area, and an approach, that we could learn rom and get better at, in the UK.

And for me, this puts into focus the whole question on non-radio traffic at non-ATC fields.

Fly safe all.
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