I'm with you Clarrie - same location, same out of body experience and the above title is what I mutter all the way down final when I watch the circus sideshow that's supposed to be an approach lightshow
I did a google (t-vasis) and found NOTHING that pushed P over the finish line ahead of the T except $$$$ plus the ol' world standardisation dribble.
One Oz installation site I visited claiming the quote "the BENEFITS of the Papi were "ENORMOUS". T'was curious. Again all
$$$$. Not one repeat one
safety or
ergonomic benefit mentioned. Yep I know who's getting those enormous benefits and it aint the

pilot.
GA trojan (is that pronounced gee eh or g-aye)

How's it goin - is my name still on your CV

Muffmeister
oh yeh '...
HH - Will the Turnball globe policy mean we are all back to diesel soaked toilet rolls?