FFF, I see what you are saying about the descrepancy. I first noticed this when I was first attempting to use a GPS and entering my own waypoints by using radial/distance (hence the accurate take off the map). Then after I had taken note of the radial/dis for a VRP I came across a ref to it in a CAA visual approach plate and noticed that mine was different. Since then I've used L/L as waypoints references but it still confuses me.