Eastern Pilots walk from AFAP

[SilverSleuth]

Have watched these forums for many years and finally thought it was time to add something in regards to this topic.

Kaptin M : LIke obviously you, I have been in the AFAP for many many years and for me it is only the lol. My oppinion is obviously very different to yours in how relevent the AFAP has been in the past, but hey I respect thats your views and thats not what I am here to debate. What I can add is what is FACT in terms of the situation in regards to DJ who I am with:

Firstly you said the DJ guys got reasonable improvements on the last CA. Not true. INfact nearly everyone here was bitterly disappointed and disillusioned from the representaion from Terry O.
There is a massive consistant perception that TO has a huge conflict of interest with the current management.

At the last EBA he brought to US at the FIRST meeting what the company offered and said "this is the best you can get I suggest you take it". THIS IS FACT ALSO. there was no private meetings with the pilot body on what to take to THE COMPANY from us. There was no reject and go back to the comany several times.

Since then every issue has been very very ammatureish chats on our behalf to the company. The most recent and notible the PAcific Blue Issue and International flying. Again the so called urgent meeting was a friendly piss up lunch with the old boys and an acceptance from him of OH well thats the best we can get.

So why say all this. Well with the next EBA quickly approaching the pilot body here seems to be gaining momentum for a seperate body if he and the AFAP fail miserably again. (like eastern)

Like you KAptain M, I was many many years ago a very pro AFAP member, and after nearly 18 years membership feel I have a right to have a say. (and yes I have conveyed these thoughts to T O'C). But the whole point is that If the the AFAP is to survive they/he must start representing there pilots in a proper way.
You cannot have someone who is on an ansett 727 Captain wage and best mates with the management here, effectively negotiating for us. That is a huge conflict of interest.

The AFAP is losing it relevence through its lack of action and conflict rep. You may disagree, thats fine as this isnt a go at you, but at least in this company they are. And once 15 - 20 members leave well that effects the lol funds and hence all of us directly.